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Old 11-02-2018, 06:48 AM
 
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Radicalized leftists aim is to have a larger voting block for power purposes. they are behind the organizing of these Caravans coming up. their goal is to see America turn into a third world country. in the goal deep down under the surface is for the South Americans to outbirth Americans and take over the country eventually with their High birth rates. The radicalize leftists are purely out to see America crumble.

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Old 11-02-2018, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Metropolis
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They have to much hubris than that. A major purpose for them is to kill racism and intolerance by making the country a completelt mixed up society that would have little room to be intolerant of itself. Especially so for certain groups, who will hold disproportionate wealth and influence. Trust me, there’s evil under that veneer of ultruism in the image they try so hard to espouse.

In the end game of peak global population and superior automation and technology, there is arrogance. They know better then to pack a nation with high carbon emittance with so many more bodies. Or to test democracy itself by rolling the dice with completely turning a nations ethnic face on top of itself, with the hope that the underlying framework holds together.

I think this country could have blended more together, (with a bit of basic common sense coaxing) and learned to be a strong nation with no gradients of self worth. No one in the world could possibly of stood against us in that model. No patience left though. Victims of our own success. Sad that this will be our undoing. It’s actually a completely catastrophic irony.

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Old 11-02-2018, 08:04 PM
 
Location: The 719
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You forgot to mention the illegals that drive without a license and get in crashes with citizens due to either being drunk or simply not knowing the rules of the road. They cause a crash, wreck your car and injure the passengers and you have no recourse to go after them since they do not have insurance and if you are hurt badly enough to the point where you or your family will sue, good luck having them show up in court. They have the option to disappear. As a result we all pay more in car insurance.



There is nothing good about having a subset of people living among us that are not accountable to the same laws that bind our society.
Heck we have a judge in Mass. that let a heroine dealer go because if he was jailed it may have caused him to be deported. I highly doubt that same judge would have let a citizen drug dealer go.



No one benefits from allowing illegal aliens to live among us including their fellow countrymen that came to America legally.

It disgusts me to even think of this.
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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It is entertaining to see people attempt to argue that it’s a simple problem with a simple solution.
Agreed, but has anyone even tried the simple solutions first? Saying that it's a "complex" porblem then going home is not going to help. For example, Trump talked about "birth tourism", mainly from China, yesterday. This is not a secret. It's an industry with its own travel agents, hotels, hospitals etc. and everybody knows about it. How about starting there?
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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You forget that elites get to have cheap labor to clean their toilets, raise their children and mow their lawns, not to mention greedy employers who can exploit these people to increase their profits.
Cheap? Have you looked at hotel rates lately?
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Old 12-03-2018, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Agreed, but has anyone even tried the simple solutions first? Saying that it's a "complex" porblem then going home is not going to help. For example, Trump talked about "birth tourism", mainly from China, yesterday. This is not a secret. It's an industry with its own travel agents, hotels, hospitals etc. and everybody knows about it. How about starting there?
The vast majority of illegal immigration is attached to employment. The easiest solution to curb it would be to mandate and enforce E-Verify. In addition, all states would have to be required to participate in the RIDE program, meaning they would include drivers licenses and other state issued IDs in the E-Verify database.

Simple solution that would be extremely impactful.
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Old 12-03-2018, 04:10 PM
 
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The vast majority of illegal immigration is attached to employment. The easiest solution to curb it would be to mandate and enforce E-Verify. In addition, all states would have to be required to participate in the RIDE program, meaning they would include drivers licenses and other state issued IDs in the E-Verify database.

Simple solution that would be extremely impactful.

I agree that eliminating the job magnet would go a long ways in deterring those looking for employment. However, unless we denied their kids our birthright citizenship many would still come because they could support themselves on the welfare they get through their U.S. born kids. So e-verify should be a part of the solution but not the end all. We still need the wall as criminals and terrorists aren't looking for jobs and because of the birthright citizenship magnet. We also need to address the visa over stayer problem.
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Old 12-03-2018, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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No, this would pretty much take care of it. If an illegal immigrant has a kid here who becomes a US citizen most likely he/she would return home along with the kid once their job is terminated and they can’t get hired somewhere else. Your conspiracies about welfare, criminals and terrorists don’t match reality.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:11 AM
 
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No, this would pretty much take care of it. If an illegal immigrant has a kid here who becomes a US citizen most likely he/she would return home along with the kid once their job is terminated and they can’t get hired somewhere else. Your conspiracies about welfare, criminals and terrorists don’t match reality.

Are you denying that having a U.S. born kid or more that the illegal alien parents don't gain welfare, Section 8 housing, food stamps, etc. through them? Many illegal aliens work for cash also to supplement these benefits.


There is no conspiracy in the truth. There are criminals and those from known terrorist countries that have entered our southern border and disappeared into our country. How could that not be possible when we have had millions of foreigners sneak through our border? Even the former FBI Director has said so. The DHS site in regards to the caravan has also stated it of which I linked in here.
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Old 12-04-2018, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Are you denying that having a U.S. born kid or more that the illegal alien parents don't gain welfare, Section 8 housing, food stamps, etc. through them? Many illegal aliens work for cash also to supplement these benefits.


There is no conspiracy in the truth. There are criminals and those from known terrorist countries that have entered our southern border and disappeared into our country. How could that not be possible when we have had millions of foreigners sneak through our border? Even the former FBI Director has said so. The DHS site in regards to the caravan has also stated it of which I linked in here.
There may be a few straggler cases but hardly anybody survives off those benefits. The cases I’m familiar with involve obtaining free baby formula, etc. Nothing earth-shattering ....you remove the access to employment and the vast majority would leave. I am very confident of that.
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