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Old 01-01-2007, 07:30 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ;239976
1- I don't need to learn English miss, my cousin can get me a job.
2- You know Spanish, miss? (As an aside, when I ask kids in English to tuck in their shirts, they won't do it, but when I ask them to tuck in Spanish, they do).
3- Why can't I read no (sic) book in Spanish? (during English class no less)
4- Day of the Dead is more important than anything America got (sic).
5- Can we write the answers in Spanish? (asked during an essay test)

Making assumptions based on five latino children, is a weak claim of evidence.

1- These statements don't come from just five children.
2- Where are you living that you need evidence of the massive illegal migration of Mexican foreign nationals and the unwillingness of their offspring to assimilate? Alaska? Maine? A ranch in Idaho?

The evidence is EVERYWHERE.

 
Old 01-01-2007, 08:22 AM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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Amen. I guess we should "dislike" all white people based on the KKK & Aryan Nation, and all Catholics based on the pedophile priests, and black people because of OJ Simpson, and..... well you all get my point.
Gizmo you are a genius.
 
Old 01-01-2007, 08:29 AM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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You were previously placing your last assumptions on five elementary school aged children. But, I'll let that slide. How can you declare they don't want to assimilate? Have you met all 40 million of them? Yeah, there were massive protests back in March, but maybe they were trying to assimilate. They could have used both flags to show personal inspiration and triumph. They could be proud of each country. They could be proud they are Mexican-American. Some of them could hate the United States, and some could only love Mexico. Unless you have interviewed 40 million of them, you can't make isolated incidences and what you seen on T.V. your basis of claims. Like I always say, Americans have difficulty with generalization, stereotypes, and racism.
 
Old 01-01-2007, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Can we or should we compare the migration of Puerto Ricans into the US after WWI, and heavily after WWII.

Quote from a history network:
Again at the end of World War II, United States companies began looking to Puerto Rico for cheap labor, and they sent agents to recruit workers. The demand was so great that the New York City Mayor Robert Wagner publicly stated in 1953 that he and all New Yorkers would welcome any Puerto Rican willing to work. Laboring jobs were plentiful! Jobs coupled with encouragement by the island government increased the average yearly migration of Puerto Ricans from 1,800 between 1930 and 1940 to 31,000 from 1946 to 1950, and to 45,000 from 1951 to 1960. In 1953, Puerto Rican migration to New York reached its peak when 75,000 people left the island. Estimates are that more than one million Puerto Ricans migrated during this period. By 1964, the Puerto Rican community made up 9.3 percent of the total New York City population.

Within the United States, Puerto Ricans also settled in many other urban areas such as Chicago, New Haven, Hartford, Boston, Jersey City and Philadelphia. The conditions faced were deplorable and poverty was rampant. Puerto Ricans in the United States fought against discrimination and economic exploitation. As the numbers grew in the 1950s, they were increasingly portrayed as unwilling to work, welfare leeches, drug addicts and juvenile delinquents. As a consequence of this public view, business and government leaders were able to get away with policies and practices that exploited and demeaned Puerto Ricans in jobs, housing, and education. End of quote

Now, 50-odd years later, very few children of Puerto Rican's in the US can write or read Spanish, and those that speak the language intersperse it with English. Companies are trying to get literate speaking, reading and writing Spanish-speakers and offering increased pay for those who can do all three!

So I wonder!

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Originally Posted by english_teacher View Post


1- These statements don't come from just five children.
2- Where are you living that you need evidence of the massive illegal migration of Mexican foreign nationals and the unwillingness of their offspring to assimilate? Alaska? Maine? A ranch in Idaho?

The evidence is EVERYWHERE.

Last edited by ontheroad; 01-01-2007 at 08:58 AM.. Reason: deleted extra quote line
 
Old 01-01-2007, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Report me for what, Sean? Take what down. I am referring to English Teacher's list of non-compliant youth!

Oh, I see your name got pulled into the quote, I've erased it. Hope that relieves your mind!

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On the Road I didn't post that quote...take it down or I will report you

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Old 01-01-2007, 09:04 AM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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Sorry, but Thank you for doing the right thing.
 
Old 01-01-2007, 02:25 PM
 
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This is a horrible tragedy, and I am glad others feel the same way as I do.

Every once and a while, I like to go to Home Depot and yell "La Migra! Ma Migra!" [Mexican term for immigration authorities] They get soo scared.. Most of them run away and hide.

We, as Americans, need to keep these people on their feet. In a country that enforces it's laws, this is how these people should be treated. You can argue that these are human beings.. blah, blah, blah.. But the difference is: the existence of bad and good.

You show disrespect for OUR laws, I show disrespect to YOU.
 
Old 01-01-2007, 07:46 PM
 
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Default Re: God **** illegals

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I guess you're just part of that lucky upper tax bracket. Please believe me when I say that the average citizen is doing much worse than in previous administrations.

Only 2 more years!!! HAHAHA!!! I can't wait. Unless the Dem supports legalization of illegals. Then I'll be sad. Sigh. Oh well. I'll probably just vote for a third party again since I'm sure both main parties up for election will be equally smarmy and useless. Any one think there's any hope for a third party to win? Independents any good lately?
You can bet your a## that the Dems will pass an amnesty program and Bush will gladly sign it into law. How mistaken I was in 2004. But then again, what were the options? Maybe next time...
 
Old 01-01-2007, 07:51 PM
 
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does it bother ANYONE besides me to hear on the phone
press one for english?
i have been SPEAKING english for almost 50 years-why do i have to CHOOSE to speak in english?
 
Old 01-01-2007, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Burlington, VT
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does it bother ANYONE besides me to hear on the phone
"press one for english?"


No, I just press 1. You have to pick your battles.

Do I get frustrated when I can't find an English speaking clerk at the supermaket? Yes, but I deal with it.
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