The cost of educating illegals.. (quotes, born, illegal aliens, law)
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No, the left just thinks a wall is not enough. There should be a combination of methods. Not every illegal is coming through the border and even for the ones who are, a wall isn't going to stop all of them. We need to figure out the most effective methods and make use of them.
Maybe Trump just wants a wall so that his contractor friends will like him better and help him with his other construction projects?
And the right agrees with this. But it's been the Democrats that have voted down e-verify in the past. Not all illegals are coming here to work either. The wall will stop the majority of them and that's already been proven. Kind of silly to say that walls are useless unless they stop 100% of illegal entrants. Even the walls, locks, doors, etc. on our homes don't stop 100% of those who want to gain entry but how many would enter without those security measures in place though?
I'm not even going to address you last sentence as it's just speculation on your part.
I wonder why the Democrats, Obama, Schumer, etc. signed on for the wall bill back in 2006 but now they oppose it?
The way I look at it is that having to educate children here illegally is one of the incentives for their parents to bring them here. We need to remove all of the incentives that bring them here. That will discourage illegal immigration in the first place. It's not fair to the taxpayer to have to cover any of the expenses of children here illegally nor their parents. They should be educated and provided for in their own countries not ours. When will this madness end?
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Originally Posted by Listener2307
It is one of the incentives and is another reason building a wall makes economic sense.
We need to remove all of the incentives that bring them here. That will discourage illegal immigration in the first place. It's not fair to the taxpayer to have to cover any of the expenses of children here illegally nor their parents.
The way I look at it is that having to educate children here illegally is one of the incentives for their parents to bring them here. We need to remove all of the incentives that bring them here. That will discourage illegal immigration in the first place. It's not fair to the taxpayer to have to cover any of the expenses of children here illegally nor their parents. They should be educated and provided for in their own countries not ours. When will this madness end?
And international students have to pay tuition when they come here to go to our high schools and colleges. Why are the illegals getting a pass on having to pay to go to our schools? It just makes no sense at all.
Plus having the illegals in our schools lowers the quality of education for our American students.
It cost taxpayers an estimated $43.9 billion to educate illegal alien students in the 2015-2016 school year. That ought to give most people pause. 43.9 billion is a lot of money. I don't think anyone should suggest that we turn the children away from the schools, thereby insuring that they will forever be illiterate and mostly a burden on society. So let's agree that they should be educated.
Federation for American Immigration Reform reports on just illegal children. Cubans, for instance are one group who still arrive not knowing much English and they are not included. https://dailycaller.com/2016/09/14/n...iens-annually/
This article points out that 1.9% of children are actually illegal themselves, while 6.9% are the offspring of illegal immigrants. This article will inform you that there are 50M students in the US, K-12. So that means (50M X 1.9% = .950M) 1 million youngsters, are, themselves, here illegally.
This article will tell you that the average cost per student is $11,762 per year.
And this math [ .950 million students X $11,762 = $11.6443 billion] shows that the above figures could be wrong, but not very wrong. Some states spend much more than others to educate children and many of the cheaper states are close to the border, so I am not overly excited about the difference.
Those who overstay a visa more than a year are trapped forever in the US. They will have difficulty in acquiring a visa to enter any other country. The penalty varies by the length of overstay, so some visa violators simply accept the short-term penalty.
Claiming that millions of children of illegals are simply the offspring of visitors who over stayed is ludicrous. https://legalbeagle.com/6328434-pena...ying-visa.html
11 billion; 43.9 billion if you actually research and find the children of illegals. Per year.
You could improve border security A LOT for that kind of savings.
So, let's start demanding that the employers who benefit so much from illegal labor start ponying up instead of having us taxpayers pick up the tab for THEIR welfare.
How about we start addressing this issue rationally...
Illegals have a very high drop out rate. Education isn't as important to them culturally as it is to other ethnic groups like Asians and Jews, for example. My late uncle was a teacher in the LAUSD school system until he retired.
So, let's start demanding that the employers who benefit so much from illegal labor start ponying up instead of having us taxpayers pick up the tab for THEIR welfare...........
If that's what needs to be done, then Congress, who has had 40 years to work on immigration reform that makes sense, needs to do it.
Expecting Congress to do any overly complicated or meaningful and productive has proven to be futile; they are just not ever going to do it.
I (for one) am perfectly happy with a massive "Guest Worker" program that screens non-citizens and allows them in the US to work. Building The Wall across otherwise unguarded portions of the border will force people to come through legally or not at all. Identifying workers and making workers legal protects all of us.
Trump has compromised with the Dems (including the Ancient Schumerian), who wanted that border fence, saying he will construct a thirty foot tall stainless steel fence using US steel and US workers, creating jobs.
Dems don't want any border barrier only because Trump wants it.
Trump has compromised with the Dems (including the Ancient Schumerian), who wanted that border fence, saying he will construct a thirty foot tall stainless steel fence using US steel and US workers, creating jobs.
Dems don't want any border barrier only because Trump wants it.
Please explain why tRump couldn't his wall from his GOP congress over the past two years. And include a statement on why he hasn't pressed Mexico for the money. After all, tRump tells us all the time what a fabulous negotiator he is.
Oh, horsepooky. No Lefty is against The Wall because it doesn't go far enough. They're against it because it is not a Democrat idea.
It'll work and it will stop the great majority of illegal migrants before they even leave their country.
What will it be made of, how high will it be, what's the cost breakdown of building it as well as maintaining and guarding it?
I can't find any specific information anywhere and want to know how a specific dollar amount was decided on without the cost breakdown.
Complete insanity.
Do you just give your creditors blank checks???
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