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Old 01-20-2019, 08:12 AM
 
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It is a whack -a-mole game. Plug the hole here another open up there. You want to stop the tide then stop the draw. E-Verify is the answer.



The chamber of commerce would burn DC to the ground.
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Old 01-20-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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Once again not all illegal aliens are coming here to work. Yes, e-verify will help but what about those employers who pay cash to their workers and those Americans that hire them as gardeners, housekeepers, etc.? Another draw for these people is birthright citizenship for their kids. We'd have to end that also as they would get housing, food, etc. through them, thus the wall.


The drug runners, criminals and terrorists won't be deterred by e-verify as they aren't looking for jobs, thus the wall.
I agree with this as well.
I have come across a few using illegals to do yard work and painting the house.
Pedro is a good worker, he mow my lawn for 5 bucks and paint my house for cheap.
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Old 01-20-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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Pro Capitalists should like the capitalist approach.
Jail the suppliers and demand will dry up.

Trump should start with himself by booting the illegals out of Mar Lago.

There is no proof that Trump "knowingly" had any illegals working for him or that he does now. Rich people don't hire manual laborers themselves. As I said, not all illegals are coming here to work either.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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Trump actually is already building new walls. In the RIO GRANDE VALLEY (?) ... the company got the contract already is starting work soon... funds were taken via a loophole... this was already widely reported by local media (but not national media).

A butterfly sanctuary is going to be ruined, and eminent domain is grabbing a lot of land fast (with compensation coming later).

Either way Good Job Trump !

Now with $5B... build atleast 200 miles of new wall.
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Old 01-20-2019, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The greedy corporations who employ or subcontract illegal labor are to blame for illegal immigration 100%. Home builders are at the top of the list by running unions off job sites 20 years ago by hiring sub contractors who have no issues with use of illegal labor. I live in AZ I had my pool remodeled only the tile contractor was american citizen. The plumbing sub-contractor owner couldn't speak one word of English he was the owner. The general pool contractor foremen had to speak to him by using the owners 10 year old kid Probably born in the US (Anchor baby) to communicate with the owner of the plumbing sub. All these sub contractors either owned and fully staffed by illegal labor used to be American labor all of them put out of business. Corporations and general contractors keep singing that tune " Americans don't want these jobs" pulls the wool over American eyes. Liberals feel sorry for people in 3rd world country's who come here view them as future voters try to legalize them. The problem is every time you legalize them just re-enforces the idea is if the illegal plants their roots in America long enough they will eventually be legalized. Walls won't change a thing has anyone been following the El-Chapo news he already said never sent drugs though the desert he just drives big trucks right though the ports, ships, or aircraft pays people off to look the other way.
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Old 01-20-2019, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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IMHO, a better remedy is to abolish socialism. Without freebies, benefits, etc, there is no reason to have an anchor baby. Without the tax and overhead of socialism, there's no reason to hire under the table.
But that remedy is politically incorrect, and won't be implemented until AFTER the country collapses.


Decriminalize 'controlled substances' and wipe out the profit margin for the cartels, while you're at it.
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Old 01-20-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Illegal aliens aren't migrants nor immigrants. The reason there are so many low waged manual labor jobs now is directly due to their presence in this country. Many of those jobs use to be decent paying jobs before millions of cheap illegals flooded our border.

No one forces them over the border to work here. They know right from wrong so they are just as guilty of breaking the law as those who hire them and they both need to be held accountable.
BLAME SOCIALISM.
Aggregate tax load is 39% to 43% of the GDP (state, local, federal).
Under those conditions, low paying jobs are no longer decent. . . for those stuck paying the bills.
Untaxed undocumented labor can afford to take those jobs without suffering the tax bite.


ABOLISH SOCIALISM. There, fixed it.

FYI:
FED Tax percentage of GNP

1900 1.58 % (coming off war)
1905 0.93 %
1910 0.83 %

It's safe to say that folks enjoyed the benefit of most of their wages before glorious socialism.
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Old 01-20-2019, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The greedy corporations who employ or subcontract illegal labor are to blame for illegal immigration 100%.
The propaganda ministry thanks you for your service.

Any business that cannot make a profit goes out of business, corporations included (who have to pay dividends to stockholders). Wanting to stay in business is GREED.

The real culprit is GOVERNMENT that confiscates a huge share of the gross domestic product to bribe voters with freebies and entitlements.

Easy to fix - prohibit anyone who received government money from voting for at least two years after the last receipt. Watch how quick the legislators stop pandering to the recipient class (rich or poor). Only tax payers can vote. (All government officials are barred from voting, too. Why not? They have a conflict of interest to encourage ever more government employment.)
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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The propaganda ministry thanks you for your service.

Any business that cannot make a profit goes out of business, corporations included (who have to pay dividends to stockholders). Wanting to stay in business is GREED.
You mean business cutting wages so deeply that only illegals will take the job isn't greed? Seems like greed to me. Either greed or poor management, but probably both.
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Old 01-20-2019, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The US is the only non 3rd world country that allows employers to hire illegal aliens without any verification, and allows anyone born on US soil automatically become a citizen even if the mother is here illegally. Why do you think those 2 laws never been changed who do you think has control over laws in this country not the poor, or middle class. Who spends millions on lobbyist in the US.
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