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Old 04-11-2008, 06:03 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Eolecapt, if that's the case, we need to release some prisoners, pronto. There are thousands of U.S. citizens currently incarcerated for identity theft and various categories of fraud. If our government has reclassified these offenses as 'administrative violations' it is certainly an egregious miscarriage of justice not to release those serving time, and expunge their criminal records.

And there are thousands and thousands of crimes that are not pursued for any number of reasons. Copyright violations for instance can be pursued criminally. Every kid on a PTP network is a potiential felon. Does not happen though does it?

The decision as to whether to criminally pursue is most often made to treat as an administrative or civil offense.

Virtually all ID thefts not involving stealing valuables go criminally unpunished.

That's how it is.
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Old 04-11-2008, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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And there are thousands and thousands of crimes that are not pursued for any number of reasons. Copyright violations for instance can be pursued criminally. Every kid on a PTP network is a potiential felon. Does not happen though does it?

The decision as to whether to criminally pursue is most often made to treat as an administrative or civil offense.

Virtually all ID thefts not involving stealing valuables go criminally unpunished.

That's how it is.
Now, you're rewriting our laws?

Identity theft is STILL a felony in the vast majority of states. Perhaps you have firsthand knowledge in one of the few states with less stringent penalties. Does the Mexican Consulate provide info on which states to commit these acts?

Identity Theft State Statutes
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Old 04-11-2008, 06:42 PM
 
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Now, you're rewriting our laws?

Identity theft is STILL a felony in the vast majority of states. Perhaps you have firsthand knowledge in one of the few states with less stringent penalties. Does the Mexican Consulate provide info on which states to commit these acts?

Identity Theft State Statutes
I am always amazed how criminal minds can justify practically anything. It's scarier when they verbally acknowledge it though isn't it?
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Old 04-11-2008, 06:55 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Now, you're rewriting our laws?

Identity theft is STILL a felony in the vast majority of states. Perhaps you have firsthand knowledge in one of the few states with less stringent penalties. Does the Mexican Consulate provide info on which states to commit these acts?

Identity Theft State Statutes
Ohh? And violating the copyright law is not a federal crime?

But let's go with yours...how many convictions for ID theft with no money involved? Hell find a dozen. That would impress me.

That something can be criminally prosecuted in no way suggests it will be. See unauthorized entry into the US as a fine example.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:53 PM
 
Location: California
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Ohh? And violating the copyright law is not a federal crime?

But let's go with yours...how many convictions for ID theft with no money involved? Hell find a dozen. That would impress me.

That something can be criminally prosecuted in no way suggests it will be. See unauthorized entry into the US as a fine example.
This is when I would suggest lifelock, but that got me infracted last time.
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:06 PM
 
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This is when I would suggest lifelock, but that got me infracted last time.
Lifelock would in no way prevent someone from using your name and SS #. All it actually does is agree to fix it if it should happen to you and causes you trouble. It does not, by the way, agree to make you whole.
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:11 PM
 
Location: California
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Lifelock would in no way prevent someone from using your name and SS #. All it actually does is agree to fix it if it should happen to you and causes you trouble. It does not, by the way, agree to make you whole.

If this was the case I don't think the CEO would be advertising his SS on billboards
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Old 04-11-2008, 11:25 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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If this was the case I don't think the CEO would be advertising his SS on billboards
Ohh? And why would that be? If he gets hit repeatedly he just crosses it off as a business expense.

Thirty five dollars to the right place will get you anyones SS#.
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