Jamiel Shaw will be Laid to Rest Today (immigrants, Hispanics, Arizona)

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Kele

Au contraire--that is policy and not a political gesture. Putting an immigration hold on a person for political show leaves plenty of room for future lawsuits. My sister's husband's brother is a Border Patrol agent. He says that the guy is definitely illegal. I think I'll go with him rather than a person such as yourself, who is ready to bend over and welcome the invasion of America. BTW, WE didn't mess this guy up. How about a little personal responsibility or are illegal aliens exempt from that particular requirement?

You're damn skippy I'm a true believer. I believe that the soveign laws of this country ought to be enforced, period. My ancestors had no immigration laws and look what happened to them.

Last guy you ever believe on such a matter is a cop...border or otherwise.

So it is your position that Mexico turns out these gangbangers by the time they are four? Or do they do it with ray machines that destroy the ability of those who live in CA to function legally.

Offhand I would expect it had more to do with the So Ca. socio-economic structure. But that would make it our problem rather than Mexico's. Can't have that can we.
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If I remeber Hawaii was simply conquered at the behest of a group of New England business men. Christians if I remember correctly. Maybe true believers?

The way you know you are scoring with the true believers is they start their jackass nonsense about what you believe...even though they have not the faintest notion. A complete lack of knowledge however is welcomed by a true believer as an opportunity to make it all up. Small minds large noise.

[Kele]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Last guy you ever believe on such a matter is a cop...border or otherwise.

So it is your position that Mexico turns out these gangbangers by the time they are four? Or do they do it with ray machines that destroy the ability of those who live in CA to function legally.

Offhand I would expect it had more to do with the So Ca. socio-economic structure. But that would make it our problem rather than Mexico's. Can't have that can we.
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If I remeber Hawaii was simply conquered at the behest of a group of New England business men. Christians if I remember correctly. Maybe true believers?

The way you know you are scoring with the true believers is they start their jackass nonsense about what you believe...even though they have not the faintest notion. A complete lack of knowledge however is welcomed by a true believer as an opportunity to make it all up. Small minds large noise.

Uh.......What?

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by Kele

Uh.......What?

Consider the source.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Kele

Uh.......What?

Every once in a while just to prove I am human. That is Pele...not Kele.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by camping!

Is there anything/anyone that the US is not responsible for?
How far do you think 'white imperialistic guilt' aught to go?
Frankly, judging by the responses of the pro illegal crowd,I can't believe that anyone would ever want to leave that bastion of paradise, crime free and full of friendly folks country known as Mexico for this god forsaken nest of murder, xenophobia, and where 'illegals are treated like animals' (still waiting an explanation for that one)......

Sorry, don't buy it, don't buy any of it. He is a criminal. If he is an illegal deport his ass out of the country, and while we're at it check his families credentials too. Hey, maybe if gangbangers and their entire families get deported perhaps more parents would get involved in their kids lives and stop them before they join a gang. Even if they have to out of fear of deportation.

Hey - Great idea. Kid gets convicted of a felony we send him and his family to Mexico. We pay the Mexicans to keep them. Given the way funding flows in our society we and the Mexicans make money and the US crime rate goes down a lot.

We can do this when we amend the Constitution to get rid of the Anchor Babies. If you don't graduate high school - no citizenship. If your kid commits a felony there goes yours too.

A win win. Does good for the US and for Mexico.

[camping!]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Hey - Great idea. Kid gets convicted of a felony we send him and his family to Mexico. We pay the Mexicans to keep them. Given the way funding flows in our society we and the Mexicans make money and the US crime rate goes down a lot.

We can do this when we amend the Constitution to get rid of the Anchor Babies. If you don't graduate high school - no citizenship. If your kid commits a felony there goes yours too.

A win win. Does good for the US and for Mexico.

Why not? After all, Mexico is exporting their underclass who are often uneducated, unskilled, and yes even criminal. Heck, Mexico has made an artform of exporting undesirables

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by camping!

Why not? After all, Mexico is exporting their underclass who are often uneducated, unskilled, and yes even criminal. Heck, Mexico has made an artform of exporting undesirables

Certainly true on two of the three. But the record indicates they commit crimes at well below their socio-economic peers from the legal or native set.

My major objections to illegal immigration is in fact that we get the unskilled and uneducated which is bad for us as a people. We need to stop the illegals because of their limited skills not because of their point of origin.

In fact I would think that the development of Mexico as a retirement area for US citizens or even a technology area attracting US citizens would be a great idea. The Mexicans simply need to learn to milk their resources to separate us from our money...instead of the ill conceived invasion of their lower class.

[Kele]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Every once in a while just to prove I am human. That is Pele...not Kele.

Sure, okay, whatever you say.....

Sorry, but you're traveling in an alternative universe I haven't had time to make it to today.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Kele

Sure, okay, whatever you say.....

Sorry, but you're traveling in an alternative universe I haven't had time to make it to today.

Nope. My grasp of reality is firm. It is the fairy tale believers who have lost touch with reality. I believe you are among that number.

"If we wish for it hard enough and long enough it will come true!" No it won't. But you will never believe it...even after it occurs. And then you will likely talk about the traitors...

[Kele]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Nope. My grasp of reality is firm. It is the fairy tale believers who have lost touch with reality. I believe you are among that number.

"If we wish for it hard enough and long enough it will come true!" No it won't. But you will never believe it...even after it occurs. And then you will likely talk about the traitors...

Considering the fact that you don't know me at all and you obviously haven't read any of my past posts--well, suffice it to say that I hesitate to fight with those who are obviously not fully armed.....