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Old 02-03-2019, 05:05 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The Border Patrol is not a "jobs program".
Build The Wall and free them up to do the important work at the legal points of entry.
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Old 02-03-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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Do make a good point

However, a wall would not be able to cover the entire border. The areas that it would cover would still not offer 100% prevention of undocumented immigrants or drug traffickers entering the Country.

Now in Certain hotspot areas a fence may make sense. As well as increased vehicle blocks.

A border patrol of 4 Officers covering every 8 miles of the Border seems very efficient.

A wall doesn't need to. Half of the border is rugged terrain that is difficult and dangerous to navigate. Why do any preventative measures have to be 100% effective in order to be considered useful? As I said, no matter how many Border Patrol you have a good physical barrier helps them to do their jobs more efficiently and protects them.


You think that 4 officers on 8 miles of border would work if they were ambushed by a dozen or more illegal aliens? As I also said, more boots on the ground is more expensive as you have to pay them a wage and benefits as long as they continue to be there.
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Old 02-03-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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2 Agents cover 1 8 mile stretch with 1 Medic/LPN
6 Agents would do 7A to 7P or 7P to 7A
2 Agents would do 12P to 12A or 12A to 12P
3 Medic/LPNs do 7A to 7P pr 7P to 7A
2 Agents cover 24 mile stretch
1 drone covers 24/7 the 24 mile stretch

With immigration reform doing away with red tape and extra bureaucracy would make the process smoother. Thus deterring people entering into the U.S. undocumented. That is all hypothetical.

What is your definition of "reform"? In leftist circles it simply means amnesty. Those coming here illegally are not needed and wouldn't be approved anyway for entering legally. So no, those types would still try to enter illegally, thus the wall.
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Old 02-03-2019, 10:14 PM
 
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The Border Patrol is not a "jobs program".
Build The Wall and free them up to do the important work at the legal points of entry.
Bingo.

Plus expedite the deportation process, so ICE can round up as many of the 11 million as they can find.

Then pass the RAISE Act, so we allow in the "best and the brightest". These are folks worth the US "hiring".
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:05 AM
 
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2 Agents cover 1 8 mile stretch with 1 Medic/LPN
6 Agents would do 7A to 7P or 7P to 7A
2 Agents would do 12P to 12A or 12A to 12P
3 Medic/LPNs do 7A to 7P pr 7P to 7A
2 Agents cover 24 mile stretch
1 drone covers 24/7 the 24 mile stretch

With immigration reform doing away with red tape and extra bureaucracy would make the process smoother. Thus deterring people entering into the U.S. undocumented. That is all hypothetical.
You didn't address ALL of my questions.

Your idea. Give us the details I asked about.

So I repeat:

Does your 144 agents cover every 24 hour span? Or is it broken down to to 3 8 hour shifts?

Do the 3 agents covering 8 miles ride together or are in separate vehicles?

If alone, howl long does it take to cover their 8 mile area?

The illegals wait hidden until the 1 agent rides by, then when out of sight they cross.

What is the annual cost? Include pay, benefits, week ends, vacations, sick leave, federal holidays,vehicles, gas, maintenance on the vehicles, uniforms, medical supplies,etc.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:09 AM
 
Location: NY
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small border patrol stations/crossing areas every 25 miles.

One large headquarters every 100 miles with border crossing stations.

Build 1 large facility in the largest crossing area. Have a hospital there as well as many administration building's. Small town for government employees. An airport. Lodging areas for those in the limbo of being sent back to country of origin or allowed into the u.s. A veterinary service area as well.

Increase staffing at national parks and forest areas along the border to better secure the area.

Increase staffing of medical professionals.

Work with private home owners to lease land on the border to better patrol it.

Have 3 aviation unit's.

3 water unit's and work with the coast guard to better protect the waterways.

Reform immigration laws to reduce red tape and make legalization a smoother process.

Reduce the size of the border by returning some land back to mexio and land to tribes in the area.


Let us start with some simple requirements:

Legal port entry only.
Must speak English.
Must have a skill set.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Do make a good point

However, a wall would not be able to cover the entire border. The areas that it would cover would still not offer 100% prevention of undocumented immigrants or drug traffickers entering the Country.

Now in Certain hotspot areas a fence may make sense. As well as increased vehicle blocks.

A border patrol of 4 Officers covering every 8 miles of the Border seems very efficient.
Why do people think a wall will be 100% effective? Is anything.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:45 AM
 
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Why do people think a wall will be 100% effective? Is anything.

And it doesn't have to be just as long as it is highly effective and there are many examples out there that the good barriers are.
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Old 02-04-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Why do people think a wall will be 100% effective? Is anything.
No one thinks that. No one at all.
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:05 PM
 
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To quote George Patton, fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man. There are was to curb illegal immigration that are cheaper and easier than building a wall that in places is unnecessary, and in other places will be defeated (especially if it isn't heavily guarded.)

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The Border Patrol is not a "jobs program".
Build The Wall and free them up to do the important work at the legal points of entry.
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