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Old 04-19-2019, 11:13 PM
 
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Do you know what in-state means? They offer in-state tuition to undocumented who graduated IN STATE. Why would you extend the same to someone who graduated OUT OF STATE?

Wouldn't you rather they are educated with a desirable degree?
Shouldnt they be in line at the US embassy? Or is that too hard to do or follow the rule of law?
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Old 04-19-2019, 11:16 PM
 
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In-state tuition is subsidized by state and local taxes paid by residents. Undocumented immigrants that reside in a state are paying state income tax, property tax, sales tax, etc. Immigration status is irrelevant.


Citizens living in other states have not contributed a penny to offset the subsidy they are asking to receive.
Can you tell me exactly how are illegal immigrants paying taxes on record and on paper? Oh wait, is it the ones who have fake SSN and ID cards? Where can I get those?
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Old 04-19-2019, 11:25 PM
 
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Can you tell me exactly how are illegal immigrants paying taxes on record and on paper? Oh wait, is it the ones who have fake SSN and ID cards? Where can I get those?
They get a tax ID number.
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Old 04-19-2019, 11:26 PM
 
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Do you know what in-state means? They offer in-state tuition to undocumented who graduated IN STATE. Why would you extend the same to someone who graduated OUT OF STATE?

Wouldn't you rather they are educated with a desirable degree?
A person can graduate in-state, move for a year, come back, and will have to establish residency for one year to get in-state, even though they lived in the state 18 out of the 19 years they have been alive.
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Old 04-19-2019, 11:43 PM
 
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They get a tax ID number.
Why? Or how? How can someone not allowed to work in the country get a tax ID number based on a right to work in the country?
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Old 04-19-2019, 11:44 PM
 
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Do you know what in-state means? They offer in-state tuition to undocumented who graduated IN STATE. Why would you extend the same to someone who graduated OUT OF STATE?

Wouldn't you rather they are educated with a desirable degree?
No, I want them to leave the country.
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Old 04-19-2019, 11:48 PM
 
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Why? Or how? How can someone not allowed to work in the country get a tax ID number based on a right to work in the country?
They get it from the IRS. It is issued regardless of status in the country, as the tax law does not depend on status in the country (in regards to this subject I should say, it does depend in other areas). A tax ID does not give you the right to work or anything, but it can and is issued to those in the country illegally.

The IRS, they will do all they can to get their money, lol.
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Old 04-20-2019, 12:02 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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They get it from the IRS. It is issued regardless of status in the country, as the tax law does not depend on status in the country (in regards to this subject I should say, it does depend in other areas). A tax ID does not give you the right to work or anything, but it can and is issued to those in the country illegally.

The IRS, they will do all they can to get their money, lol.
It is meant for foreign nationals that have businesses in the USA. It wasn’t meant for people living here illegally.
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Old 04-20-2019, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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In-state tuition is subsidized by state and local taxes paid by residents. Undocumented immigrants that reside in a state are paying state income tax, property tax, sales tax, etc. Immigration status is irrelevant.


Citizens living in other states have not contributed a penny to offset the subsidy they are asking to receive.
Cute little story, but no. Many (most?) criminal aliens continue to violate our laws by working "under the table" and not paying income or social security taxes.

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Old 04-20-2019, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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i know what it means - clearly you do not. it means you are a legal resident of the state in question.

that's why i was able to get in-state tuition in TX after extablishing residency by working/paying taxes for a year in that state, despite not having graduated there.
The bold isnt true.

"Legal" us your word, not those institutions. using Washington for an example

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To qualify as a resident student, state law requires that you establish a bona fide domicile in the state of Washington for a period of one year, for purposes other than educational, prior to the start of the semester or quarter for which you intend to register. For more information, please refer to the University of Washington's (UW) student guide for Understanding Washington State Residency and the Student Residency page found on the Washington Student Achievement Council (WSAC) website.
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