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Old 04-14-2008, 08:46 PM
 
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I reside in Los Angeles, amongst genuine gangs and illegal. Were any others within this forum of similar ilk, he or she could corroborate similarly from experience, rather than hypotheticals.

The illegals I live amongst have no regard for any American laws, having broken a biggie to get here. They retain misogynistic ways from "home," are xenophobic to anyone not from their "home country," and incubate the gangs here with their endless vendettas which they consider "normal." They change all signage into their specific foreign language with no English alongside, drive recklessly and without licensing, and are repositories of hatred to everyone not "just like them."

What so saddens me about the posts here from the pro-illegals is that by default they are resoundingly pro-criminal behavior, and they are so intensely anti-American. They appear to really despise working class and middle class Americans. Perhaps they're all so young that not a one has payed taxes, which here in L.A. go into a vortex of helping lawbreakers instead of our fellow citizens, whether born or naturalized, in need.

Bank-robbers are only trying to help themselves and their families, as are illegals, so don't equate the latter with anything but innate criminality. I myself have ridden, injured from a car wreck that an illegal caused, in an ambulance that couldn't find an ER with room, since illegals use them for minor complaints. I've helped a friend with gynocological cancer at a county hospital, turned away for months at a time because her cancer coincided with the specialty of that servicing hundreds of eight-and-a-half-months pregnant illegals, whom we saw each and every time: they get it all for free, poor U.S. citizens have to pay the tens of thousands at county. I have had my nice dogs shot at by illegals. I do live in a neighborhood that hosts double homicides from gangs, because the demographic changed.

The antonym of anti-illegal is pro-criminal. I am guessing then that the pro-criminality crowd doesn't have a great deal of life experience dealing with the consequences of illegals. That's the only way I can reconcile these otherwise intelligent posters being so heartless to Americans.
I cannot argue the gang mentality, I have seen no gangs here. When I lived in Portland Oregon, the gangs were a menace, in certain area of Portland were home to the crips and the bloods and drive by shootings were common place. I cannot blame you with the experiences you have had with the illegals. I don't feel heartless to the Americans, I just wish there was a way to benefit both sides.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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I reside in Los Angeles, amongst genuine gangs and illegal. Were any others within this forum of similar ilk, he or she could corroborate similarly from experience, rather than hypotheticals.

The illegals I live amongst have no regard for any American laws, having broken a biggie to get here. They retain misogynistic ways from "home," are xenophobic to anyone not from their "home country," and incubate the gangs here with their endless vendettas which they consider "normal." They change all signage into their specific foreign language with no English alongside, drive recklessly and without licensing, and are repositories of hatred to everyone not "just like them."

What so saddens me about the posts here from the pro-illegals is that by default they are resoundingly pro-criminal behavior, and they are so intensely anti-American. They appear to really despise working class and middle class Americans. Perhaps they're all so young that not a one has payed taxes, which here in L.A. go into a vortex of helping lawbreakers instead of our fellow citizens, whether born or naturalized, in need.

Bank-robbers are only trying to help themselves and their families, as are illegals, so don't equate the latter with anything but innate criminality. I myself have ridden, injured from a car wreck that an illegal caused, in an ambulance that couldn't find an ER with room, since illegals use them for minor complaints. I've helped a friend with gynocological cancer at a county hospital, turned away for months at a time because her cancer coincided with the specialty of that servicing hundreds of eight-and-a-half-months pregnant illegals, whom we saw each and every time: they get it all for free, poor U.S. citizens have to pay the tens of thousands at county. I have had my nice dogs shot at by illegals. I do live in a neighborhood that hosts double homicides from gangs, because the demographic changed.

The antonym of anti-illegal is pro-criminal. I am guessing then that the pro-criminality crowd doesn't have a great deal of life experience dealing with the consequences of illegals. That's the only way I can reconcile these otherwise intelligent posters being so heartless to Americans.
I lived in the west part of San Bernardino County. I know what I was (is) like in LA, especially with an Illegal loving Mayor.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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People really don't know what it's like in Ca. unless you've lived there. Continous gunshots from drive-by shootings and gand invasions. Neglective driving ,,,,drunk, no DL, no Insurance. Hit and ran driving.
Buildings covered with Graffittii written in spanish, on and on and on...................
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:26 PM
 
Location: California
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People really don't know what it's like in Ca. unless you've lived there. Continous gunshots from drive-by shootings and gand invasions. Neglective driving ,,,,drunk, no DL, no Insurance. Hit and ran driving.
Buildings covered with Graffittii written in spanish, on and on and on...................
Spanish..? Most of the graffiti I've ever seen (the ones I understand) is in English. You try claiming land in Spanish from Black gangs.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Spanish..? Most of the graffiti I've ever seen (the ones I understand) is in English. You try claiming land in Spanish from Black gangs.
Then it sounds like you haven't been in the heart of it all like others have.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:29 PM
 
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I reside in Los Angeles, amongst genuine gangs and illegal. Were any others within this forum of similar ilk, he or she could corroborate similarly from experience, rather than hypotheticals.

The illegals I live amongst have no regard for any American laws, having broken a biggie to get here. They retain misogynistic ways from "home," are xenophobic to anyone not from their "home country," and incubate the gangs here with their endless vendettas which they consider "normal." They change all signage into their specific foreign language with no English alongside, drive recklessly and without licensing, and are repositories of hatred to everyone not "just like them."

What so saddens me about the posts here from the pro-illegals is that by default they are resoundingly pro-criminal behavior, and they are so intensely anti-American. They appear to really despise working class and middle class Americans. Perhaps they're all so young that not a one has payed taxes, which here in L.A. go into a vortex of helping lawbreakers instead of our fellow citizens, whether born or naturalized, in need.

Bank-robbers are only trying to help themselves and their families, as are illegals, so don't equate the latter with anything but innate criminality. I myself have ridden, injured from a car wreck that an illegal caused, in an ambulance that couldn't find an ER with room, since illegals use them for minor complaints. I've helped a friend with gynocological cancer at a county hospital, turned away for months at a time because her cancer coincided with the specialty of that servicing hundreds of eight-and-a-half-months pregnant illegals, whom we saw each and every time: they get it all for free, poor U.S. citizens have to pay the tens of thousands at county. I have had my nice dogs shot at by illegals. I do live in a neighborhood that hosts double homicides from gangs, because the demographic changed.

The antonym of anti-illegal is pro-criminal. I am guessing then that the pro-criminality crowd doesn't have a great deal of life experience dealing with the consequences of illegals. That's the only way I can reconcile these otherwise intelligent posters being so heartless to Americans.
Sorry but i don't buy your story, also if you know you are living among illegals then why don't you call the I.C.E? What happens when when they change the signs to foreign languages? Do you call the cops?
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Sorry but i don't buy your story, also if you know you are living among illegals then why don't you call the I.C.E? What happens when when they change the signs to foreign languages? Do you call the cops?
You don't have to believe anything.

L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa sides with the Illegals and we can call ICE, LAPD, Code Enforcement, but that doesn't mean anything is going to be done anytime soon about it.

I wish it was that simple.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:42 PM
 
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You don't have to believe anything.

L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa sides with the Illegals and we can call ICE, LAPD, Code Enforcement, but that doesn't mean anything is going to be done anytime soon about it.

I wish it was that simple.
They must not be following Arizona, where they are all but gone from here,
I thought all of these States were following in the foot steps, truth be known, they are still here also.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:44 PM
 
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People really don't know what it's like in Ca. unless you've lived there. Continous gunshots from drive-by shootings and gand invasions. Neglective driving ,,,,drunk, no DL, no Insurance. Hit and ran driving.
Buildings covered with Graffittii written in spanish, on and on and on...................
Bro, I agree...surely the entire state is not like that...even los angeles...it is a beautiful city that is the entertainment mecca of our nation...surely it can't be all bad.
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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They must not be following Arizona, where they are all but gone from here,
I thought all of these States were following in the foot steps, truth be known, they are still here also.
California is a sanctuary state and as far as Villaraigosa, Baca, Pelosy, Boxer, Fienstien + is concerned, they want to keep it like that.
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