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If anything, many illegals alleviate fiscal problems at the federal level by using fake SS numbers to pay into a system that they will never collect from. The social services they consume are at a state and local level more than a federal level.
And let's face it: at all levels of government, the root of the problem is that there is nothing the government won't spend money on if given the chance. Government will never say, "OK, we have enough money. We can stop trying to increase revenues now." Revenues go up and up and up and yet the government never stops complaining about how it doesn't have enough and it's going to have to cut this service or that. And that would still be the case if you sent every illegal home tomorrow.
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If anything, many illegals alleviate fiscal problems at the federal level by using fake SS numbers to pay into a system that they will never collect from. The social services they consume are at a state and local level more than a federal level.
Incorrect. They pay taxes in order to get earned income credits, meaning they get all their money back, plus a bonus for claiming dependants. Tom Tancredo exposed this scam years ago.
Furthermore, they create a deficit in regards to health care, education, crime, etc. Look it up at NumbersUSA.
How much blame do you put on illegal aliens for our current government fiscal problems?
Our current fiscal problems are vastly due to the huge increase in spending by the Bush jr administration, including the 2 trillion dollar Iraq war fiasco, migrant workers in turn have help to prevent many companies from moving to China......
Our current fiscal problems are vastly due to the huge increase in spending by the Bush jr administration, including the 2 trillion dollar Iraq war fiasco, migrant workers in turn have help to prevent many companies from moving to China......
What's the difference then? Whether companies hire illegal aliens to work for them or the jobs are outsourced? Either way it cuts an American out of a job. Both of these practices need to end.
migrant workers in turn have help to prevent many companies from moving to China......
They may as well be there in China?
What good are they to America and Americans?
Reinstate the high tariffs that the USA once imposed on ALL imports, and we would not be worrying about all our industry, moving to China.
Import tariffs were put in place to eliminate the very thing that happened, when they were lifted and American companies could not compete with poverty and slave labor in 3rd world countries. We now have absolutely very minimal industry here, and are no longer self supporting. We rely on 3rd world countries to provide the USA for most everything now.
I put lots of blame on this country spending money on Illegals, and Illegals not paying taxes, but at the same time you must look at those in charge of the money for the root of the problem.[Bush AND Obam bam]
Due to the fact that by leaps and bounds federal government spending goes to the military, they are not really a major part of the budget crisis. They do put a drain on welfare and entitlements but all those combined only make up a small part of the budget. The rest goes to servicing debt, the state department, the EPA, etc.
The military is going to get paid if we were at war or not. The cost to transport, fuel and maintenance, of equipment, to get it to the theater of war, and combat pay raises, are the only extra cost to the war.
It is not like we created a military, from scratch and say that is the cost of war, and place it on the administration.
Due to the fact that by leaps and bounds federal government spending goes to the military, they are not really a major part of the budget crisis. They do put a drain on welfare and entitlements but all those combined only make up a small part of the budget. The rest goes to servicing debt, the state department, the EPA, etc.
By definition you can not receive welfare if not a legal resident, entitlements are abused big time by our own people, which the rest of the working people including the migrant workers have to pay for, I willl give an example; in 1975 more than 90% receiving social security disability were people with terminal Ilnesses, Cancer and end stage cardiac disease at the top, in 2008 the top two conditions for social security disabilty were back pain and "mental" illness, people that on avarge collect disabilty
benefits for decades instead of an average of less than one year for people with terminal disease, and guess who are all this people that are "disabled" with back pain, and "mental Illness"....., our own ciitzens...
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