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Old 04-26-2008, 02:40 PM
 
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CHICAGO -- Polish native Andrezj "Peter" Derezinski came to the U.S. 18 years ago and was soon living the American dream. The 41-year-old father of three owns two homes, some commercial property and a thriving heating and cooling business here.
Thursday evening, Mr. Derezinski is scheduled to be deported. On July 13, 2006, a police officer stopped him for talking on his cellphone while driving, in violation of a ban here. The officer found that Mr. Derezinski was in the U.S. unlawfully. He had overstayed a tourist visa and then ignored a deportation order in the mid-1990s.
Many illegals came here with visas from Ireland, India, Poland, etc. They stayed in the country after those visas expired. Estimates are up to 45% of the 12 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. are visa over-stayers. Europeans account for 400,000 of them.
The number of foreigners deported from the U.S. has risen steadily, from 116,202 in fiscal 2001, to 240,779 in fiscal 2007.
Chicago is home to some 70,000 Polish illegal immigrants, second only to the city's undocumented Mexican population.
Polish enclaves are abuzz about immigration, community leaders say. Illegal immigration "isn't just a Latino issue," says Frank Spula, president of the Polish-American Alliance. "Polish who overstayed their visas are here with family and property, and they can't just pack up and leave."

 
Old 04-26-2008, 02:47 PM
 
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Sure thing...I say we ALL run down to the local Wal-Mart right now, and buy a bottle of "POLISH REMOVER"....THAT'LL fix 'em !........
 
Old 04-26-2008, 02:57 PM
 
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Sure thing...I say we ALL run down to the local Wal-Mart right now, and buy a bottle of "POLISH REMOVER"....THAT'LL fix 'em !........
A trivial response to a serious question. Most of these folks have been here for decades and bore children.
Many are business owners and contribute more than their share to America. Why should they NOT be allowed to stay?
 
Old 04-26-2008, 02:59 PM
 
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Would you say the same for illegal Mexican immigrants?
 
Old 04-26-2008, 03:03 PM
 
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Would you say the same for illegal Mexican immigrants?
Maybe we should base it on the positive contribution they have made, such as starting a business or obtaining a college degree. Those with a criminal record should not be considered.
 
Old 04-26-2008, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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CHICAGO -- Polish native Andrezj "Peter" Derezinski came to the U.S. 18 years ago and was soon living the American dream. The 41-year-old father of three owns two homes, some commercial property and a thriving heating and cooling business here.
Thursday evening, Mr. Derezinski is scheduled to be deported. On July 13, 2006, a police officer stopped him for talking on his cellphone while driving, in violation of a ban here. The officer found that Mr. Derezinski was in the U.S. unlawfully. He had overstayed a tourist visa and then ignored a deportation order in the mid-1990s.
Many illegals came here with visas from Ireland, India, Poland, etc. They stayed in the country after those visas expired. Estimates are up to 45% of the 12 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S. are visa over-stayers. Europeans account for 400,000 of them.
The number of foreigners deported from the U.S. has risen steadily, from 116,202 in fiscal 2001, to 240,779 in fiscal 2007.
Chicago is home to some 70,000 Polish illegal immigrants, second only to the city's undocumented Mexican population.
Polish enclaves are abuzz about immigration, community leaders say. Illegal immigration "isn't just a Latino issue," says Frank Spula, president of the Polish-American Alliance. "Polish who overstayed their visas are here with family and property, and they can't just pack up and leave."
illegal is illegal. out he goes.
 
Old 04-26-2008, 03:36 PM
 
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illegal is illegal. out he goes.
What if it were your mother or father. I doubt that you would be so cavalier in your attitude.
 
Old 04-26-2008, 03:55 PM
 
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A trivial response to a serious question. Most of these folks have been here for decades and bore children.
Many are business owners and contribute more than their share to America. Why should they NOT be allowed to stay?
Yes, it WAS trivial....sorry !....
 
Old 04-26-2008, 03:55 PM
 
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He made the choice to overstay his visa, he made the choice to not obey the deportation order. Now, if he was a successful businessman, he could have/should have hired an immigration lawyer to work out some deal with INS/BCIS to become a citizen. He chose not to. He opted to stay and take his chances. His luck ran out, out he goes.
 
Old 04-26-2008, 03:57 PM
 
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What if it were your mother or father. I doubt that you would be so cavalier in your attitude.
Point well taken.

That stated: if we allow one illegal immigrant to stay------then precedent has been set to allow all of 'em to stay.

BTW: Derezinski obviously has/had his priorities screwed up-------if he put a fraction of his energy into becoming legal as he did into his businesses-------the man would be not have gotten himself into trouble.

I have no sympathy for that lawbreaker.
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