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Old 12-30-2006, 03:18 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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Not 25 years, in 2000 in oregon white dudes were making 10-12 an hour. My husband has been in construction 20 years, and he is now a PM, and they still want to pay him 20.00 an hour!!!
My mistake, nice information..I know they don't pay that well in California, I'm sure of that...but in your last quote you do understand the complications of a low supply of caucasian workers in the always booming construction industry. I went to Utah, saw some Latinos doing Construction in the snow. I wonder if they know about yellow snow, since it doesn't snow in Latin America much.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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My mistake, nice information..I know they don't pay that well in California, I'm sure of that...but in your last quote you do understand the complications of a low supply of caucasian workers in the always booming construction industry. I went to Utah, saw some Latinos doing Construction in the snow. I wonder if they know about yellow snow, since it doesn't snow in Latin America much.
Being in the business as long as we have, there is no shortage of white dudes, businesses just choose to hire the lower wage workers. Many white dudes have either opened their own business and now hire illegals or have gone on to be PM's or supers or gotten out alltogether. Construction ISNT for everyone, but I know some women that frame, believe me there are people that will do the work for fair pay. It has taken several years to almost exclude the white guy from many construction markets, they are there you just dont see them.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:22 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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Dont go there, white dudes do construction, my husbands one of them and I know so many more. White dudes cant afford to live off the money they pay illegals , (that have taken the jobs), because we pay taxes.
Yeah, your husband probably holds an upper level construction management job. Again, we are talking about the peons, the serfs. Yeah, but the illegal immigrants send money back to their families so that cuts the tax differential.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Yeah, your husband probably holds an upper level construction management job. Again, we are talking about the peons, the serfs. Yeah, but the illegal immigrants send money back to their families so that cuts the tax differential.
He didnt always have a higher position, we prefer laborers to peons, anyway, he had to get out of the labor part,no one would hire a white guy that wanted 12-15 and hour, when they could pay 2-5 for an illegal!!! And yes they send money back but when you have 10 living in a home sharing expenses, it adds up. Me I prefer to live with just a couple people!!! my family!!
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:26 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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It's supply and demand. More willing illegal workers, less demand of citizens, lowering of wages, removal of citizens.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I do believe that if more "citizens " did the work we would have better quality in construction. That I have witnessed way to many times. as far as the builders go they get what they pay for. And then we over pay for it.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:32 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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More citizens don't do the work because it's physically draining to the max. I did construction for one week, and was horribly soar after each day.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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More citizens don't do the work because it's physically draining to the max. I did construction for one week, and was horribly soar after each day.
No not the case at all, I know women that do it, I have done it and I am small. My husband is 5'11 and 175 pounds. You get used to it, just like anything else. People would be surprised by how many people I know that would jump at the chance. Saying there is no one willing to do the work thats why the illegals do it is a lame excuse, they pushed them out.
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Cody WY Off Of Belfry Hwy
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Yeah, but the illegal immigrants send money back to their families so that cuts the tax differential.
And therein lies a huge problem....that $$$ is not going back into the US economy
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Old 12-30-2006, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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And therein lies a huge problem....that $$$ is not going back into the US economy
yep..........

"According to the study, sponsored by the Multilateral Investment Fund of the 47-nation Inter-American Development Bank, remittances from the United States to Latin America this year will total more than $45 billion. That is 51 percent higher than they were only two years ago."
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