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Old 05-08-2008, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Here we go again!!!
And you have a problem with fastfilm's comments?

I have lived in SoCal so I know of what she speaks of.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:28 AM
 
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I'm neither a redneck nor a militant anything...

Yeah, I know what you mean though. I can't understand why people make such a big deal about illegals. They're just people! People who come here and work and do not pay taxes. People who come and abuse our health care system. People who move into neat, clean neighborhoods and make it look like crap. I mean, REEEEEALLY, people, who cares if the house next door to you has 4 cars up on blocks and grass two feet high! Who cares if they steal your social security number. Who cares if they stage rallies and flip the bird to Americans. They're people. Peeeeople!

But you know what really burns my bra? All those LEGAL immigrants who filed the paperwork and got admitted to the US legally and work and pay taxes and buy old houses and fix them up and scrimp and save to send their kids to college. Who the heck do they think they are!!!
Yeah, and who cares if we have to close hospitals because illegals use emergency rooms for "office visits", and who cares if the children of citizens don't get a decent education because the illegal kids can't speak English, and who cares if our tax money goes to people who aren't even supposed to be in the country, huh?? Who cares, I ask you!!

And, who cares if our government won't listen to its own people who pay their salaries and instead listen to the President of Mexico, and who cares if the illegals take jobs away from our lower-income citizens and depress the wages of others, and who cares if the illegals leave tons of garbage all over our border which we can't even afford to clean up, huh?? Who cares, I ask you!!

These people against illegal immigration are just stupid and racist. These illegals are really nice people, and we benefit from them coming over the border illegally. In fact, what would we do without them, I ask you?! My God, our country would simply fall apart at the seams!
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:16 AM
 
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Here we go again!!!
This is your contribution? Thanks.....there's a lot here to think about. I'm sure we all appreciate your sharing your thoughts on the matter.
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:38 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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Yeah, that's all fine & dandy, but I stick by what I say. So you guys can go on & on w/your racism & judgement & paranoia...I choose to focus on more important things. But have fun with that!
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Pa
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God, some of you people are a bunch of militant, redneck followers. It was pretty disgusting reading your outright hatred toward others. I hope your satisfied w/yourself, to think that illegal immigration is the biggest problem facing this country? That it is to blame for how the state of this country is now? Give me a break, stupidity & ignorance is more like it. Get some tolerance of others people, it goes a long way.
What makes being anti-illegal = being racist? I am married to a legal immigrant from Thailand. I am all for legal immigration as most anti-illegals also are for legal immigrants. What we are against is giving individuals who have no respect for our laws a free walk.
I just returned from Thailand. They thought like many. Their problem was with refugee's from Burma. They flooded accross the border and over whelmed Thailands immigration system. How do you deport so many at once?
Well the liberals in Thailand won the argument. Free pass..
Today Thailand has a real problem. The Burma immigrants soon took over the factory jobs. Working for low ball wages. Sound familiar? Also with the govs blessings and support. They are hard workers, they work cheap, its a win win deal..... Now they occupy most manufacturing jobs. They also hold their employers hostage. No not for more wages.... If they feel like running the equipment that day they do. If they don't? LOL They don't.... If they are confronted they quit in mass leaving the employer high and dry. They go on to another factory desperate for help.
The Thai's who once did the work? They are not going back to those jobs.
For 1 the wages due to the illegals are to low. Contracts are signed employers can't pay more or they will go broke. All this because the Thai gov chose to take the easy path.
No thank you I don't believe we need to make the same mistake.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:00 PM
 
Location: southern california
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why angry? fear. and a feeling of helplessness. your own kids are spoiled rotten and won't work. they are 35 years old and livin at home. you are raising their babies. pathetic. and you are still working to support them all in your "golden years". and your marriage, if you are lucky enough to still have one, when you took your pants off, she put them on, been like that ever since. the good life is going down the tubes. its much easier to blame it on our disfunctinoal government and mexican people than it is to look in the mirror.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Denver
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What makes being anti-illegal = being racist? I am married to a legal immigrant from Thailand. I am all for legal immigration as most anti-illegals also are for legal immigrants. What we are against is giving individuals who have no respect for our laws a free walk.
I just returned from Thailand. They thought like many. Their problem was with refugee's from Burma. They flooded accross the border and over whelmed Thailands immigration system. How do you deport so many at once?
Well the liberals in Thailand won the argument. Free pass..
Today Thailand has a real problem. The Burma immigrants soon took over the factory jobs. Working for low ball wages. Sound familiar? Also with the govs blessings and support. They are hard workers, they work cheap, its a win win deal..... Now they occupy most manufacturing jobs. They also hold their employers hostage. No not for more wages.... If they feel like running the equipment that day they do. If they don't? LOL They don't.... If they are confronted they quit in mass leaving the employer high and dry. They go on to another factory desperate for help.
The Thai's who once did the work? They are not going back to those jobs.
For 1 the wages due to the illegals are to low. Contracts are signed employers can't pay more or they will go broke. All this because the Thai gov chose to take the easy path.
No thank you I don't believe we need to make the same mistake.
Which just proves this is not some unique problem United States is going through. It is definitely a global issue as is the economy.

If 1 country like China has somewhat cheap "slave" labor, you will notice they get a lot of business, right? Which then forces other countries to have to compete, or think they have to compete. I am not saying it is right, but economy has to adjust to compete.

Perhaps to compete, Americans should have taken a pay cut long time ago?
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:11 PM
 
Location: southern california
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What makes being anti-illegal = being racist? I am married to a legal immigrant from Thailand. I am all for legal immigration as most anti-illegals also are for legal immigrants. What we are against is giving individuals who have no respect for our laws a free walk.
I just returned from Thailand. They thought like many. Their problem was with refugee's from Burma. They flooded accross the border and over whelmed Thailands immigration system. How do you deport so many at once?
Well the liberals in Thailand won the argument. Free pass..
Today Thailand has a real problem. The Burma immigrants soon took over the factory jobs. Working for low ball wages. Sound familiar? Also with the govs blessings and support. They are hard workers, they work cheap, its a win win deal..... Now they occupy most manufacturing jobs. They also hold their employers hostage. No not for more wages.... If they feel like running the equipment that day they do. If they don't? LOL They don't.... If they are confronted they quit in mass leaving the employer high and dry. They go on to another factory desperate for help.
The Thai's who once did the work? They are not going back to those jobs.
For 1 the wages due to the illegals are to low. Contracts are signed employers can't pay more or they will go broke. All this because the Thai gov chose to take the easy path.
No thank you I don't believe we need to make the same mistake.
very good post.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:31 PM
 
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why angry? fear. and a feeling of helplessness. your own kids are spoiled rotten and won't work. they are 35 years old and livin at home. you are raising their babies. pathetic. and you are still working to support them all in your "golden years". and your marriage, if you are lucky enough to still have one, when you took your pants off, she put them on, been like that ever since. the good life is going down the tubes. its much easier to blame it on our disfunctinoal government and mexican people than it is to look in the mirror.
Mon dieu.
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yeah, that's all fine & dandy, but I stick by what I say. So you guys can go on & on w/your racism & judgement & paranoia...I choose to focus on more important things. But have fun with that!
Racism?

An illegal immigrant is just that: a lawbreaker----------whether from Ireland, Mexico or the Philippines.
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