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More important issues, like what: 1)the economy, 2) the war, 3) oil dependency, 4)illegal-immigration, 5) health care... ? Maybe but the I-I issue is in the top 5. We already have have a more than generous immigration policy, we just need to enforce it in order to avoid this mess.
Up to now, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until I read this. You have no idea what youre talking about.
Illegal immigration isn't causing violent crime in Mexico. That has to do with the power struggle between drug cartels. Theres this stuff called DRUGS, that is in high demand in the United States. Criminal organizations control the drug trade through Mexico to dealers in the U.S. Theres been a lot of arrests of high ranking members in the Tijuana Cartel..as other organizations are trying to fill the void, a lot of violence has been occuring. Its a turf war.
The military was statoned in Baja California for a short period to deal with corruption within the police departments, cops who had ties to that mafia.
The Mexican president has made a point of hitting the drug cartels, so things are a little chaotic right now. I don't usually approve of the Mexican government, but at least they are doing something to battle the drug gangs.
How you tie that to illegal immigration, I have no idea.
Because it is not merely the business of illegal drug trafficking which is causing the increase in Mexico's crime rate and violence along the border, but the business of HUMAN trafficking as well. The number of Mexican nationals, especially women and young girls, illegally smuggled into the U.S. to be used in the sex trade every year numbers in the tens of thousands. Then there are those who pay smugglers to bring them into the U.S. There is an entire segment of Mexico's economy that is thriving based upon the illegal importation of human beings into the U.S. for cash or "services." Often the smugglers in both trades are one and the same.
More important issues, like what: 1)the economy, 2) the war, 3) oil dependency, 4)illegal-immigration, 5) health care... ? Maybe but the I-I issue is in the top 5. We already have have a more than generous immigration policy, we just need to enforce it in order to avoid this mess.
i agree with everything youve just said.
I'm also glad you realize that while illegal immigration is an important issue, its not the cause of all the other problems.
Don't you dare insinuate any of this as being caused by a demand in drugs in the US. Those scum in Mexico are killing each other off (Mexicans killing Mexicans, cartels & ordinary bystanders & govt officials). If you remove drugs, they'll kill over something else (prostitution, money laundering, etc). They are what they are, criminal opportunists.
You say the killings are due to drugs. Remove the drug issues & they'll kill for something else. Funny you say there is a demand in the US for drugs. Would that incl any native Mexicans also? I see many Mexicans, amongst many, tweaking out. For so many US born drug users you are insinuating, where are the large scale anglo drug murders?
You are naive, and lots of the statements you are making are pretty ignorant. I said AMERICANS, and your offended because you think I'm suggesting white people do drugs. Oh no, not white people! Pure as the driven snow! Look at all the mexicans!
Not all "US Born" are white.
AMERICANS OF ALL COLORS do drugs, sell drugs, and even in the case of "tweaking" make drugs.
Hate to bust your bubble, but there is a LOT of drug use in America. Its a very lucrative business. A VERY lucrative business that many want to have control over.
So they have wars over who gets to pump America full of drugs, because YES there is a demand.
Why do you think countries near the U.S. are known for drugs?
What does Cuba and Mexico have in common?
Being located next to America.
If America stopped buying drugs, the business wouldn't be lucrative, nobody would want to sell drugs, the Cartels would fall apart, and yes violence will go down along the border.
And yes, lots of white people do drugs too. Hang out in any ghetto in America...whether its Queensbridge in New York or Jordan Downs in LA, and watch the white people pop through to score.
There is not very much left of the American Dream for anyone not born to the Purple (to inherited wealth, privilege or power). This applies to people born in this country. Illegal’s have it worse.
This is not an accident. It is the result of 30 years of conservative policy to gut the working class and to keep them from polluting wealth’s special places including certain universities, towns and social gatherings.
You are naive, and lots of the statements you are making are pretty ignorant. I said AMERICANS, and your offended because you think I'm suggesting white people do drugs. Oh no, not white people! Pure as the driven snow! Look at all the mexicans!
Not all "US Born" are white.
AMERICANS OF ALL COLORS do drugs, sell drugs, and even in the case of "tweaking" make drugs.
Hate to bust your bubble, but there is a LOT of drug use in America. Its a very lucrative business. A VERY lucrative business that many want to have control over.
So they have wars over who gets to pump America full of drugs, because YES there is a demand.
Why do you think countries near the U.S. are known for drugs?
What does Cuba and Mexico have in common?
Being located next to America.
If America stopped buying drugs, the business wouldn't be lucrative, nobody would want to sell drugs, the Cartels would fall apart, and yes violence will go down along the border.
And yes, lots of white people do drugs too. Hang out in any ghetto in America...whether its Queensbridge in New York or Jordan Downs in LA, and watch the white people pop through to score.
I guess they''re just filling a need ( just like cheap labor)
Call it niche marketing.
Dont think for a minute drugs are a problem in the US only. Every developed country has drug problems and you're right, US is the biggest buyer for Mexican products because we are the closest, wealthiest neighbor. You actually think if US didn't exist, Mexico would stop selling? Gimme a break, If US ceases to exist and Oregon & Washington becomes part of Mexifornia, you bet drugs are going to flow even more freely into Canada. The pushers will create a need for their stuff to sell, just like they did here.
You're mistaking my point (or THE point): the US has enough problems of its own. Your rationalization in decriminalizing the criminals & their behavior is sick.
And theres no need for me to travel to see drugs being sold.
And if anyone is being ignorant, we all know in what context "America" and "American" is being used. Ask any day laborer if they are "American".
More important issues, like what: 1)the economy, 2) the war, 3) oil dependency, 4)illegal-immigration, 5) health care... ? Maybe but the I-I issue is in the top 5. We already have have a more than generous immigration policy, we just need to enforce it in order to avoid this mess.
I guess they''re just filling a need ( just like cheap labor)
Call it niche marketing.
Dont think for a minute drugs are a problem in the US only. Every developed country has drug problems and you're right, US is the biggest buyer for Mexican products because we are the closest, wealthiest neighbor. You actually think if US didn't exist, Mexico would stop selling? Gimme a break, If US ceases to exist and Oregon & Washington becomes part of Mexifornia, you bet drugs are going to flow even more freely into Canada. The pushers will create a need for their stuff to sell, just like they did here.
You're mistaking my point (or THE point): the US has enough problems of its own. Your rationalization in decriminalizing the criminals & their behavior is sick.
And theres no need for me to travel to see drugs being sold.
And if anyone is being ignorant, we all know in what context "America" and "American" is being used. Ask any day laborer if they are "American".
Who even brought up day laborer? Or Immigrants for that matter?
We were talking about the violence on the border, and you got all defensive asking how dare I insinuate that it has to do with high demand of drugs in the good ol US.
You lost, kid.
We could be talking about whether or not the moon landing was fake, and I'm sure it would get back to illegal immigrants.
Up to now, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until I read this. You have no idea what youre talking about.
Illegal immigration isn't causing violent crime in Mexico. That has to do with the power struggle between drug cartels. Theres this stuff called DRUGS, that is in high demand in the United States. Criminal organizations control the drug trade through Mexico to dealers in the U.S. Theres been a lot of arrests of high ranking members in the Tijuana Cartel..as other organizations are trying to fill the void, a lot of violence has been occuring. Its a turf war.
The military was statoned in Baja California for a short period to deal with corruption within the police departments, cops who had ties to that mafia.
The Mexican president has made a point of hitting the drug cartels, so things are a little chaotic right now. I don't usually approve of the Mexican government, but at least they are doing something to battle the drug gangs.
How you tie that to illegal immigration, I have no idea.
Que?
I lost?
Las I checked, this is the immigration forum.
You're a disallusioned fake if you think illegal immigration isn't causing violence only in Mexico. Its causing violence here in the US as much.
You say its the fault of the US & its demands of drugs that there are violence and death along the border. Let me as you this: would you give a despondent, down-on-their-luck person a liter of vodka & loaded gun and claim you had nothing to do with a possible negative outcome?
And since you conveniently & repeatedly chose to or are unable to answer anything and just claim winners and losers, I'll give you another shot: Ask any illegal or undocumented if they call themselves American or Mexican (or Guatemalan or Salvadorean)? After all, they're all American, right? Or as you put it. Remember Oscar Dela Hoya after winning his gold medal? What flag did he personally raise and what was the response from his "blood" brethren? That was the core response to turn their back on one of their own & one of a LA native's greatest success stories: a Mexican American raising The Star Spangled Banner.
since you're keeping score, here is your winner of a post:
Same here in MD, and it’s spreading like wildfire to most states.
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