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Old 05-18-2008, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Until recently, Salvador Luna, A 41-year-old toy vendor in Mexico City, had planned to join his two sisters in New York City, where they work illegally as maids. "But they're telling me about people getting rounded up and deported, and how life in general is getting harder there," he says
Newsweek article

Need I say more?

I swear; the tempo of enforcement seems to be increasing against the above lawbreakers
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Old 05-18-2008, 03:29 PM
 
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If you call living in a cemetery a better life for a immigrant than I hate to see what life that immigrant left from


YouTube - Illegal migrants are living in a cemetery in New Jersey
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Old 05-18-2008, 04:17 PM
 
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When people begin looking the future with wide open eyes, they will realize there is no such a thing called American Dream for people who come in illegally, what is awaiting for them is a horrible life of stupid suffering with no rewards at all. Think twice, be smart, your life cant be too bad to choose living a nightmare.
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:45 PM
 
Location: California
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Newsweek article

Need I say more?

I swear; the tempo of enforcement seems to be increasing against the above lawbreakers
Nah, its just coming out on the news a lot more to keep you guys satisfied..and complacent.


What? What war? Osama who? A recession you say? whats that?
MEXICAN ILLEGALS?? Not in MY backyard! Where's my got dang Stars and Stripes..!

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Old 05-18-2008, 05:48 PM
 
Location: California
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When people begin looking the future with wide open eyes, they will realize there is no such a thing called American Dream for people who come in illegally, what is awaiting for them is a horrible life of stupid suffering with no rewards at all. Think twice, be smart, your life cant be too bad to choose living a nightmare.
Not exactly. Its going to be rough for the immigrant, but his kids and grandkids will have it a million times better.

The American Dream is achievable by newcomers, despite all the people standing in the way trying to keep it to themselves.

If they can jump over a 12 foot fence, I dont think a 5 foot chubby white guy will be any problem.
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Nah, its just coming out on the news a lot more to keep you guys satisfied..and complacent.


What? What war? Osama who? A recession you say? whats that?
MEXICAN ILLEGALS?? Not in MY backyard! Where's my got damn Stars and Stripes..!
Hmmmm......another sign of desperation on the side of the pro illegal crowd?

Seriously; the 'writing is on the wall'-------if I were an illegal immigrant, I would be giving hard thought about getting out of the USA before facing (probable) severe punishment including forfeiture of assets and jail time.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:01 PM
 
Location: California
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Hmmmm......another sign of desperation on the side of the pro illegal crowd?

Seriously; the 'writing is on the wall'-------if I were an illegal immigrant, I would be giving hard thought about getting out of the USA before facing (probable) severe punishment including forfeiture of assets and jail time.
Desperation? Hardly. I'm not an illegal, nor do I know of any family members who are illegal.
Im not even "pro illegal", but I do sympathize with the immigrant crowd illegal or not.

And immigrants arent going to be scared off. As long as people hire them, they will keep coming.

I dont see how that comment means "desperation". Governments traditionally like to use the media to get peoples minds off things they dont want them to think about.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Nah, its just coming out on the news a lot more to keep you guys satisfied..and complacent.

What? What war? Osama who? A recession you say? whats that?
MEXICAN ILLEGALS?? Not in MY backyard! Where's my got damn Stars and Stripes..!
You couldn't possibly be referring to the uber pro-illegal, open borders mainstream media. They have done EVERYTHING possible to squelch stories pertaining to illegal immigration; including pushing the 'economy' to the front burner. The pot is boiling over, and there's no obfuscating the issue. They are compelled to cover illegal immigration because it is totally out of control, and few Americans are still in the dark.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Desperation? Hardly. I'm not an illegal, nor do I know of any family members who are illegal.
Im not even "pro illegal", but I do sympathize with the immigrant crowd illegal or not.

And immigrants arent going to be scared off. As long as people hire them, they will keep coming.

I dont see how that comment means "desperation". Governments traditionally like to use the media to get peoples minds off things they dont want them to think about.
I agree with much of your post; especially the part about "as long as people hire them, they will keep coming." However, you have to realize there is a sea change taking place in this country; a change that has been brought on by many factors.

You say that you are not "pro-illegal" but yet you group illegal immigrants in with those who are emigrating here legally. IMO, that makes you a pro-illegal.
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:42 PM
 
Location: California
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You couldn't possibly be referring to the uber pro-illegal, open borders mainstream media. They have done EVERYTHING possible to squelch stories pertaining to illegal immigration; including pushing the 'economy' to the front burner. The pot is boiling over, and there's no obfuscating the issue. They are compelled to cover illegal immigration because it is totally out of control, and few Americans are still in the dark.
If most of the fact you have are coming from the media , how pro-illegal are they? The only way to be pro-illegal is to not put attention on it. ANything else exposes them and makes a huge issue out of it.
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