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Old 05-19-2008, 06:43 PM
 
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You know whats really irritating. Americans in Europe trying to talk English with the natives. Hello..learn the language. It is soooooo irritating. When my husband and I was stationed in Germany many Americans thought the Germans should speak English. After all, the Americans had occupied the country for more then 50 some years. Now reading some of this threads thats kind of funny. It always goes to ways, remember that.
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:56 PM
 
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Yes it does. Well stated. It was like this in Japan as well when I was stationed there. When my ex useto make fun of the accent when they did attempt to speak too us in English, (Disgusting).
This is something I have always plugged when "talk" starts on "Speaking English" I feel whether or not you are a resident of this country or temp stationed there due to the military or work it is not expected that everybody bow down to you and speak English. And nothing is ever mentioned. Why? I think it is hypocritical.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:08 PM
 
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I was stationed in Germany twice. No American with any sense would think all Germans should be able to understand and speak English. But the fact of the matters is, you are more likely to encounter a English speaking German, than a English speaking Latino in many parts of Los Angeles, and El Paso.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:15 PM
 
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Yes it does. Well stated. It was like this in Japan as well when I was stationed there. When my ex useto make fun of the accent when they did attempt to speak too us in English, (Disgusting).
This is something I have always plugged when "talk" starts on "Speaking English" I feel whether or not you are a resident of this country or temp stationed there due to the military or work it is not expected that everybody bow down to you and speak English. And nothing is ever mentioned. Why? I think it is hypocritical.
I have mentioned it, and so have many others.

But let me recap it for you

If I moved to another country for any length of time with the purpose of setting up residency and working **I would learn the language** or at least to the best of my ability. I wouldn't demand that my new country print signs in English, print government forms in English, or in anyway accomadate my inability/point blank refusal to assimiliate to their country.
Furthermore, if I went to a another country to vacation **I would learn enough of that language to get by, as well as have an aid i.e. English to whatever dictionary with me**

Sorry to burst your and the OPs bubble ----- people who are anti illegal immigration and are pissed that Spanish is becoming the de facto language in some states are not ignorant, xenophobic, illiterate, racist hillbillies fresh out of the trailer park. Some of us are actually (gasp!) not hypocritical at all
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Did millions of “illegal” Americans invade Germany and “demand” the Germans speak English? Did these Americans also depress the wages of the Germans, or march in the streets waving the U.S. flag while demanding to receive rights and benefits reserved for Germans? Were the Americans flooding German ER’s expecting to receive free medical treatment? Were they enrolling their children in German schools expecting the Germans to foot the bill for their education? Were they stealing ID’s of German citizens? Were they giving birth to children expecting their offspring to be granted German citizenship accompanied by numerous tax-funded benefits?

I’m sure on any given day, a “few” foreign tourists expect the host country to speak their language, both here and abroad. There’s a HUGE difference between tourists or soldiers expecting to be accommodated; and millions of foreigners arrogantly refusing to speak the language of the country in which they “illegally” reside.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I have mentioned it, and so have many others.

But let me recap it for you

If I moved to another country for any length of time with the purpose of setting up residency and working **I would learn the language** or at least to the best of my ability. I wouldn't demand that my new country print signs in English, print government forms in English, or in anyway accomadate my inability/point blank refusal to assimiliate to their country.
Furthermore, if I went to a another country to vacation **I would learn enough of that language to get by, as well as have an aid i.e. English to whatever dictionary with me**

Sorry to burst your and the OPs bubble ----- people who are anti illegal immigration and are pissed that Spanish is becoming the de facto language in some states are not ignorant, xenophobic, illiterate, racist hillbillies fresh out of the trailer park. Some of us are actually (gasp!) not hypocritical at all
Spanish may be the de facto language in a few enclaves------but, the vast majority of Spanish only speakers here in the USA are in the lower classes so they have little real power either politically or economically.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:28 PM
 
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I’m sure on any given day, a “few” foreign tourists expect the host country to speak their language, both here and abroad.
In Germany many businesses that cater to Americans speak English. Also a very high number of Germans speak English. Almost all the young do. Germans are very well educated.
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Old 05-19-2008, 07:49 PM
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Spanish may be the de facto language in a few enclaves------but, the vast majority of Spanish only speakers here in the USA are in the lower classes so they have little real power either politically or economically.
So why is everyone so worried about those lower class people then?
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:08 PM
 
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In Germany many businesses that cater to Americans speak English. Also a very high number of Germans speak English. Almost all the young do. Germans are very well educated.
Agreed. It has been customary for a large percentage of Europeans to speak English.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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So why is everyone so worried about those lower class people then?
How about that a disproportionate number of the lower class Latinos are illegal?

I would have the same disgust and contempt towards the lower class illegal immigrants if they were of Irish, Nigerian, Russian------hell, of any race/ethnicity.

And; the so-called 'upper class' illegals (of which there are few) would also earn my enmity.
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