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Old 05-21-2008, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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How very democratic of ya Johnny!Illegals haunt McCain
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:30 PM
 
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How very democratic of ya Johnny!Illegals haunt McCain
This is a good post for the immigration forum too. Please note that Obama and other law makers took the same stance McCain did. What I will not forget is that McCain co-sponsored the defeated Amnesty bill against the wishes of the American people.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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This is a good post for the immigration forum too. Please note that Obama and other law makers took the same stance McCain did. What I will not forget is that McCain co-sponsored the defeated Amnesty bill against the wishes of the American people.
Since I and most democrats favor helping illegals to some degree, Obama did as I would want.

McCain on the other hand, went against his constituents and his party which is fine for us, but sucks for them.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Since I and most democrats favor helping illegals to some degree, Obama did as I would want.

McCain on the other hand, went against his constituents and his party which is fine for us, but sucks for them.
That is a good point. Many of us Democrats have long favoured an amnesty for the Mexicans together with new laws that ensure that any future fence jumpers will not feel welcome in the USA. It is the GOP and their base that have made an issue out of attacking the Mexicans.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:18 AM
 
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attacking the mexicans? is that your version of us wanting our laws followed by everyone? why do you assume it is only mexicans that are illegal?
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:41 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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That is a good point. Many of us Democrats have long favoured an amnesty for the Mexicans together with new laws that ensure that any future fence jumpers will not feel welcome in the USA. It is the GOP and their base that have made an issue out of attacking the Mexicans.
kev,

it's fairly obvious that you have not lived in a place like southern california which is bursting with illegals. american born taxpayers are forced to subsidize healthcare, education, etc for the masses that have come across since the last decade. it is not "attacking mexicans" to want to protect your country's borders and make a better quality of life for native citizens. i will most likely vote for obama, but in no way do i support illegal immigrants that are here or yet to be here.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:17 AM
 
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“It’s another reminder that he’s ‘Amnesty John,’ ” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the conservative Center for Immigration Studies, who nevertheless has no major objection to the proposal. “It’s another reminder of his role in promoting not just amnesty but promoting illegal immigration in the first place.” An aide to McCain said the Arizona Republican stands by his position. """
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Old 05-25-2008, 12:11 PM
 
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This is just one reason why many Clinton Democrats will be fine with voting for McCain. McCain is actually a liberal Republican.
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Old 05-25-2008, 12:21 PM
 
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Default or it could mean that...

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Since I and most democrats favor helping illegals to some degree, Obama did as I would want.

McCain on the other hand, went against his constituents and his party which is fine for us, but sucks for them.
Or, it could mean that McCain knows who he is and is really the candidate who is about Change...

It also proves that that McCain is strong enough to lead and to stand up for what he believes - instead of voting "present"!...
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Old 05-25-2008, 12:40 PM
 
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It also proves that that McCain is strong enough to lead and to stand up for what he believes - instead of voting "present"!...
Unlike Barack Obama who never met a position he didn't like?
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