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Old 06-03-2008, 06:52 PM
 
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It depends on their race. There is minor to substantial racism against indigenous-origin Latin Americans in Spain and pretty substantial racism against African-origin Latin Americans there as well. However, this pales in comparison to how people perceive Subsaharan Africans. Spain is really just getting used to non-European immigrants as of the year 2000. Besides (largely) white Latin Americans who have been living and working in Spain's large cities for a very long time, Spain hasn't experienced massive immigration from ANYWHERE outside of Europe until very recently.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Get out to where?!? I live in Brooklyn, work in Manhattan, am from Miami (and visit a few times per year). I'm a pretty well-traveled person as well, and have lived/studied in Spain (where there's not only a problem with Eastern European and Arab "illegals" but with - (gasp!) Subsaharan African "illegals" as well). It's not like I just sit in my little Iowa/Montana/Georgia town and base all my comments on how I perceive the Mexicans that work in the factory down the street. I am a fluent Spanish speaker and not only to I try to keep informed about current events/laws passed regarding immigration, I also have talked to "illegals" about their situation in the United States, Spain, and Italy.

Though your comments about the employment rate may be true, I am not an economist and read/watch CNN and other mainstream news outlets (NYTimes, occasionally read the Economist) to find out information like that. If they're lying or hiding the true numbers from me, I really can't be expected to "know" the numbers to which you're referring. And even if you're "englightened," I highly doubt that many other forumers here are as well.
Get out to where?? Why, the REAL world, of course. The one that requires the independent verification of the truth, without the blinders of government disinformation to comfort you. You seem like an intelligent person, why don't you KNOW what lies you're being told? I'd be willing to bet that if you worked with your HANDS you'd be sounding a helluva lot like me, but since it really doesn't affect you, you're content to swallow the government LOAD.

And all the sheeple said, "BAA-AAH-AAH-AAH!!!"
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Get out to where?? Why, the REAL world, of course. The one that requires the independent verification of the truth, without the blinders of government disinformation to comfort you. You seem like an intelligent person, why don't you KNOW what lies you're being told? I'd be willing to bet that if you worked with your HANDS you'd be sounding a helluva lot like me, but since it really doesn't affect you, you're content to swallow the government LOAD.

And all the sheeple said, "BAA-AAH-AAH-AAH!!!"
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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No child should be deprived of public education. I don't care if a child wades across the Rio Grande and shows up to a school five minutes later; the Supreme Court has suggested that free, public education is a pseudo-fundamental right and that it cannot be withheld from anyone, regardless of their immigration status. On another note, illegal immigrant parents pay taxes too, you know.
These are the kind of politically correct people that will eventually lead to the demise of great nations like the USA
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:42 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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No child should be deprived of public education. I don't care if a child wades across the Rio Grande and shows up to a school five minutes later; the Supreme Court has suggested that free, public education is a pseudo-fundamental right and that it cannot be withheld from anyone, regardless of their immigration status. On another note, illegal immigrant parents pay taxes too, you know.
pseu·do–adjective

1. not actually but having the appearance of; pretended; false or spurious; sham.
2. almost, approaching, or trying to be.

'Nuff said.
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:35 PM
 
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Awesome! Can we kick out all of the other stupid and/or learning disabled kids too? Special education is a huge burden to our economy, and I don't see why my taxes should go to support someone else's kid in a wheelchair at 10 times the cost . BTW, they also really burden our healthcare system...deport the special kids! God Bless America! Support the troops!
If they have no mental problems then kick them out or put them to work in the fields after we kick out all the illegal, non-working immigrants.

(Whatever!)
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:00 PM
 
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No child should be deprived of public education. I don't care if a child wades across the Rio Grande and shows up to a school five minutes later; the Supreme Court has suggested that free, public education is a pseudo-fundamental right and that it cannot be withheld from anyone, regardless of their immigration status. On another note, illegal immigrant parents pay taxes too, you know.
I live in El Paso, TX, and I was on a bike ride with my brother this morning, and a lady driving an old beat up and smoking car, with mexico plates, drops off a young girl at the corner street, 2 seconds late the yellow school bus drives up and picks her up. Now, you tell me how, they are paying taxes when they drive over from Mexico and drop them off to catch the school bus?
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Old 12-17-2008, 03:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I've always proposed we should have an additional line item on tax returns where the pro-Illegal Alien types can enter whatever amount they deem fit to keep the Social Services flowing for Illegal Aliens without touching my wallet. There is nothing stopping these people from doing it already though.
I don't think I should be forced to adopt an Illegal Alien by proxy.
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Old 02-13-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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No child should be deprived of public education. I don't care if a child wades across the Rio Grande and shows up to a school five minutes later; the Supreme Court has suggested that free, public education is a pseudo-fundamental right and that it cannot be withheld from anyone, regardless of their immigration status. On another note, illegal immigrant parents pay taxes too, you know.
Yes they do pay taxes, such as for food or rent taxes, that "little" taxes compared to the extra "us" citezens pay every paycheck. Not only that but have you looked at what we pay for our house taxes each year. This will only increase with more Mexican nationals attending our schools. It makes me sick!
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