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View Poll Results: If you thought of illegal Mexicans as Native-American Indians does it change your opinion of their r
Yes 1 1.89%
No 50 94.34%
Somewhat 2 3.77%
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:41 PM
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If you thought that most of the illegals from Mexico were Native Americans, would that change your opinion of their rights to be here?
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:51 PM
 
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If you thought that most of the illegals from Mexico were Native Americans, would that change your opinion of their rights to be here?
illegal is illegal. No way.

BTW, i have Native American blood from the Cherokee Tribe.
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:52 PM
 
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Not in the least. They are citizens of the country of Mexico, regardless of their ethnic roots. They have NO RIGHT to come here, same for the illegal Irish!
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:57 PM
 
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Certainly. If I believed that illegals from Mexico were indigenous to the United States, then I'd think they had an inherent right to live here.

If I thought they were indigenous to another country, however, (such as Mexico), then I'd think their inherent rights lay with THAT country. I'd think that the modern-day Mexican Government should make every effort to aid these people, whose land it had 'taken' without their consent.

At one time, a number of indigenous people found themselves living, successively, under the rule of Spain, then of Mexico, and finally, of the US. The US, when it gained part of the former lands of Mexico, also 'gained' the people who lived therein. Today, the descendants of those people, including Indians, Mestizos, whites, etc., are American citizens. The people who remained in Mexico itself, continued on as Mexican citizens.

Indigenous Americans ("Indians") are a race. Citizenship is a matter of legality, not ethnicity.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:00 PM
 
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Certainly. If I believed that illegals from Mexico were indigenous to the United States, then I'd think they had an inherent right to live here.

If I thought they were indigenous to another country, however, (such as Mexico), then I'd think their inherent rights lay with THAT country. I'd think that the modern-day Mexican Government should make every effort to aid these people, whose land it had 'taken' without their consent.

At one time, a number of indigenous people found themselves living, successively, under the rule of Spain, then of Mexico, and finally, of the US. The US, when it gained part of the former lands of Mexico, also 'gained' the people who lived therein. Today, the descendants of those people, including Indians, Mestizos, whites, etc., are American citizens. The people who remained in Mexico itself, continued on as Mexican citizens.

Indigenous Americans ("Indians") are a race. Citizenship is a matter of legality, not ethnicity.
Say it ain't SO!!!

And I wonder, conversely, are those who live in Mexico and can trace their roots back to Spain, obligated to pack up and "go back to where they came from"?
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:02 PM
 
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No, an illegal immigrant from Mexico that had native american roots is no more a citizen of the US then I would be if I showed up at the border of Scotland or Ireland or Czech republic or any other of the many ethnicities I could claim....
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:29 PM
 
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Back then there was no established authority/government. You can't compare those days to today. Times have changed and so has the world. Illegal immigration is against the law of ALL countries.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:33 PM
 
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If you have enough money you can do anything
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:44 PM
 
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The only way it would change is if the "Native Americans" were here legally or is native citizen at the USA... you can be a native american in Africa and it still be illegal for you to come here illegally... you can even be an american who gave up his/her citizenship and moved to the UK and now changed your mind and decide to come back illegally and STILL be an illegal citizen... you cannot change where you were born but you can choose to come here legally or illegally... I am not going to reward criminal behavior..
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:47 PM
 
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If you have enough money you can do anything
Paris Hilton used to believe that way too. Now she knows it only rents tolerance, not immunity.
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