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Old 06-08-2008, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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WASHINGTON - The tricky politics of immigration, an issue once seen as a driving force of the 2008 election, have relegated it to a back but hot burner in the presidential campaign debate and paralyzed Congress on the topic.

Both John McCain and Barack Obama support giving legal status to millions of illegal immigrants, a position that strategists see as crucial to winning over Hispanics
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Frankly; who cares what a group of 'Hispanics' think whether the USA should grant or deny amnesty to a bunch of lawbreakers with a significant proportion of the latter committing Felonies (ID theft, etc)?

The cold reality is so-called 'Latinos' are only about 14% of the US population-----and, many of 'em are quite anti illegal immigration themselves.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:15 PM
 
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And what has supporting legalization of illegals done for McCain? Well the latest poll shows Obama leading McCain among Hispanics 62% to 29%. So much for theory Republicans will get Hispanic votes if they support an open border.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:29 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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The fact that either of them support this mass legalization of illegals is appalling. Isn't it obvious that the majority of the legal citizens of this country would consider this a major slap in the face. There is a reason we have processes in place to become a citizen. Ever ask yourselves why, after 300 years of endless immigration we have decided that we should put Spanish instructions on everything. If we are going to do that for them, shouldn't we also include French, German, Russian, Chinese, etc. We don't because the majority of those people are forced to immigrate legally. And part of that process is learning English. If the Spanish speaking people want to immigrate here legally, then more power to them. But the illegals should be made to pay the price for border jumping. I guarantee that if the shoe was on the other foot, Mexico would have a thing or two to say about millions of Americans flooding their streets.
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Old 06-08-2008, 02:01 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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As long as the latino/hispanic population (legal & illegal) keeps increasing, there is really no way to stop them from getting increased attention as a voting block, politicians on both sides realize this and they will continue to pander. Why would either of them throw away the "latino vote" by stating that they will close the borders and arrest and expel all illegals? I can't see that happening. I am hopeful that a common sense solution can be reached at some point, but during the election cycle, I don't think either one is willing to take that risk.
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Old 06-08-2008, 03:27 PM
 
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Frankly; who cares what a group of 'Hispanics' think whether the USA should grant or deny amnesty to a bunch of lawbreakers with a significant proportion of the latter committing Felonies (ID theft, etc)?

The cold reality is so-called 'Latinos' are only about 14% of the US population-----and, many of 'em are quite anti illegal immigration themselves.
They may be but most support "amnesty" for illegal immigrants.. and that has been proven true in many polls.
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Old 06-08-2008, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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They may be but most support "amnesty" for illegal immigrants.. and that has been proven true in many polls.
Well; blacknight04, most Americans do not support amnesty for those losers.
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Old 06-08-2008, 08:04 PM
 
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It's a tough situation for sure. As I have said many times before, politicians will try not to offend anybody in order to get the votes. Of the two, I think Obama would be less illegal friendly than McCain because of his background. This dude got his $ss kicked in states with large number of Mexican voters. Blacks generally are not happy with illegals making life harder them. I don't think they will stand for Obama welcoming illegals with open arms.

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Old 06-08-2008, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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It's a tough situation for sure. As I have said many times before, politicians will try not to offend anybody in order to get the votes. Of the two, I think Obama would be less illegal friendly than McCain because of his background. This dude got his $ss kicked in states with large number of Mexican voters. Blacks generally are not happy with illegals making life harder them. I don't think they will stand for Obama welcoming illegals with open arms.
I have opined on in the past that the illegal immigrant menace may wind up shattering many of the last 'barriers' between Black and White Americans.
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Old 06-08-2008, 11:40 PM
 
Location: California
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I have opined on in the past that the illegal immigrant menace may wind up shattering many of the last 'barriers' between Black and White Americans.
Thats classic.
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I have opined on in the past that the illegal immigrant menace may wind up shattering many of the last 'barriers' between Black and White Americans.
That's optimistic.
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