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Old 01-09-2007, 09:56 AM
 
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Folks,

Those who are against illegal aliens reaping everything we have set aside for our children and grandchildren, are NOT against LEGAL IMMIGRATS, and LEGAL IMMIGRATION! There is a vast difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL.

People, we are going to lose our country if the average citizen does not understand what we are really up against here. READ THESE STATISTICS BELOW, AND THEN GET BUSY! Call your elected officials and demand they FOLLOW THE IMMIGRATION LAWS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!!! Period.

ILLEGAL ALIEN STATISTICS
Summary: On average each day 25 Americans die at the hands of criminal aliens in the United States. Twelve Americans are murdered by criminal aliens. Another ten Americans are killed by drunk-driving criminal aliens. Finally, an additional three Americans will die because of negligent homicides by criminal aliens, such as running a red light, speeding, or the negligent handling of a dangerous weapon.

Murder - The willful (non-negligent) killing of one human being by another. This includes first and second-degree murder, as well as non-negligent manslaughter. Murder does not include deaths caused by negligence, suicide, or accident; justifiable homicides; attempts to murder or assaults to murder, which are considered “aggravated assaults.”

Negligent Homicide - Negligent homicide is the killing of another person through gross negligence or without malice. It can also be considered a death that is the result of the negligent operation of a motor vehicle, which includes the operation of a car, boat or snowmobile.

Source: Iowa Representative Steve King (IA-5) first brought these alarming statistics to our attention earlier this year. Recently, Congressman King was the guest of Bill O’Reilly who had asked the Iowan come on his show to discuss his findings in greater detail.

Statistics:

Criminal Alien Prison Population –
According to an April 7th, 2005 General Accounting Office (GAO) study entitled, “Information on Criminal Aliens Incarcerated in Federal and State Prisons and Local Jails” [Report # GAO-05-337R] prepared for the Congressional Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims:

“27% of the total population in all U.S. prison systems (including city, county, state and federal) is composed of criminal aliens.”

Total Murders in the U.S. in 2005 –
According to the FBI, there were 16,692 persons murdered in the U.S. in 2005. The Uniform Crime Reporting Program defines murder and non-negligent manslaughter as the willful killing of one human being by another.

Total Drunk-Driving Fatalities in the U.S. in 2005 –
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 12,945 Americans were killed in car crashes where the driver had a blood alcohol concentration of .08g/dL or higher in 2005.

Calculations:
Total number of people murdered in the U.S. at the hands of criminal aliens in 2005: 4,507
This number is calculated by taking 27% multiplied by the total number of murders in the U.S. in 2005 (.27 x 16,692 = 4,507)
This figure equals approximately 12 murders every day at the hands of criminal aliens (4,507 / 365 = 12)

Total number of people killed in the U.S. as a result of drunk-driving criminal aliens in 2005: 3,495
This number is calculated by taking 27% multiplied by the total number of alcohol-related fatalities in 2005 (.27 x 12,945 = 3,495)
This figure equals approximately 10 deaths every day at the hands of criminal alien drunk drivers (3,495 / 365 = 10)

Conclusions:
Twenty-five Americans die at the hands of criminal aliens every day in the U.S.
(12 murders + 10 drunk-driving fatalities + 3 negligent homicides = 25 deaths every day)

In the year 2005, criminal aliens killed more than three times the number of Americans murdered in the terrorist attacks of 9-11 died.
9,125 Americans died at the hands of criminal aliens in 2005, as compared to approximately 3,000 Americans who perished in 9-11.

Additional Statistics:
Federal prison criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in federal prison: 48,708
Mexico 63%, Colombia and Dominican Republic 7% each, Jamaica 4%, Cuba 3% and El Salvador 2%, remaining countries represent less than 2% each.
Source: Bureau of Prisons (BOP)

Top 5 State prisons system criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in top 5 states’ prison systems: 51,600
Mexico 58%, Cuba and Dominican Republic 5% each, El Salvador 4%, Jamaica 3%, remaining countries represent less than 3% each.

Top 5 local jails’ criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in top 5 states’ prison systems: 170,000
Mexico 65%, El Salvador 6%, Guatemala 3%, remaining countries represent less than 3% each.
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Old 01-10-2007, 07:56 AM
 
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BerryPie, I totally understand but, I guess until the people up rise or another attack on American soil our elected officials will bury their heads in the sand. Not to say all of congress is happy with this some are truly fighting.
The state of Idaho sent out a mailing letting business owners know there is now a way to check on illegals wanting work they have partnered with the I.R.S so, maybe this will help our state and let illegals know they have no work here until they are legal.

By the way like your user name.
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Old 01-10-2007, 05:03 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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There's already a 100 illegal immigrant threads. (cut and paste)
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Old 01-10-2007, 05:07 PM
 
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There's already a 100 illegal immigrant threads. (cut and paste)
This is a good point and it also highlights the fact that we need a separate section for illegal immigration. I think it would tidy up the politics section a lot. What does everybody think???
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Old 01-10-2007, 05:09 PM
 
Location: South Bay, California
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I'd have to agree with you.
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Old 01-10-2007, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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Originally Posted by BerryPie View Post
Folks,

Those who are against illegal aliens reaping everything we have set aside for our children and grandchildren, are NOT against LEGAL IMMIGRATS, and LEGAL IMMIGRATION! There is a vast difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL.

People, we are going to lose our country if the average citizen does not understand what we are really up against here. READ THESE STATISTICS BELOW, AND THEN GET BUSY! Call your elected officials and demand they FOLLOW THE IMMIGRATION LAWS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!!! Period.

ILLEGAL ALIEN STATISTICS
Summary: On average each day 25 Americans die at the hands of criminal aliens in the United States. Twelve Americans are murdered by criminal aliens. Another ten Americans are killed by drunk-driving criminal aliens. Finally, an additional three Americans will die because of negligent homicides by criminal aliens, such as running a red light, speeding, or the negligent handling of a dangerous weapon.

Murder - The willful (non-negligent) killing of one human being by another. This includes first and second-degree murder, as well as non-negligent manslaughter. Murder does not include deaths caused by negligence, suicide, or accident; justifiable homicides; attempts to murder or assaults to murder, which are considered “aggravated assaults.”

Negligent Homicide - Negligent homicide is the killing of another person through gross negligence or without malice. It can also be considered a death that is the result of the negligent operation of a motor vehicle, which includes the operation of a car, boat or snowmobile.

Source: Iowa Representative Steve King (IA-5) first brought these alarming statistics to our attention earlier this year. Recently, Congressman King was the guest of Bill O’Reilly who had asked the Iowan come on his show to discuss his findings in greater detail.

Statistics:

Criminal Alien Prison Population –
According to an April 7th, 2005 General Accounting Office (GAO) study entitled, “Information on Criminal Aliens Incarcerated in Federal and State Prisons and Local Jails” [Report # GAO-05-337R] prepared for the Congressional Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims:

“27% of the total population in all U.S. prison systems (including city, county, state and federal) is composed of criminal aliens.”

Total Murders in the U.S. in 2005 –
According to the FBI, there were 16,692 persons murdered in the U.S. in 2005. The Uniform Crime Reporting Program defines murder and non-negligent manslaughter as the willful killing of one human being by another.

Total Drunk-Driving Fatalities in the U.S. in 2005 –
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 12,945 Americans were killed in car crashes where the driver had a blood alcohol concentration of .08g/dL or higher in 2005.

Calculations:
Total number of people murdered in the U.S. at the hands of criminal aliens in 2005: 4,507
This number is calculated by taking 27% multiplied by the total number of murders in the U.S. in 2005 (.27 x 16,692 = 4,507)
This figure equals approximately 12 murders every day at the hands of criminal aliens (4,507 / 365 = 12)

Total number of people killed in the U.S. as a result of drunk-driving criminal aliens in 2005: 3,495
This number is calculated by taking 27% multiplied by the total number of alcohol-related fatalities in 2005 (.27 x 12,945 = 3,495)
This figure equals approximately 10 deaths every day at the hands of criminal alien drunk drivers (3,495 / 365 = 10)

Conclusions:
Twenty-five Americans die at the hands of criminal aliens every day in the U.S.
(12 murders + 10 drunk-driving fatalities + 3 negligent homicides = 25 deaths every day)

In the year 2005, criminal aliens killed more than three times the number of Americans murdered in the terrorist attacks of 9-11 died.
9,125 Americans died at the hands of criminal aliens in 2005, as compared to approximately 3,000 Americans who perished in 9-11.

Additional Statistics:
Federal prison criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in federal prison: 48,708
Mexico 63%, Colombia and Dominican Republic 7% each, Jamaica 4%, Cuba 3% and El Salvador 2%, remaining countries represent less than 2% each.
Source: Bureau of Prisons (BOP)

Top 5 State prisons system criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in top 5 states’ prison systems: 51,600
Mexico 58%, Cuba and Dominican Republic 5% each, El Salvador 4%, Jamaica 3%, remaining countries represent less than 3% each.

Top 5 local jails’ criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in top 5 states’ prison systems: 170,000
Mexico 65%, El Salvador 6%, Guatemala 3%, remaining countries represent less than 3% each.

Uggh, what a tease. I thought you were selling them

Guess I'll be cutting my own lawn AGAIN next year.

-TT

(I am completely KIDDING, lol)
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Old 01-10-2007, 10:30 PM
 
Location: The Bronx
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"Uggh, what a tease. I thought you were selling them

Guess I'll be cutting my own lawn AGAIN next year.

-TT

(I am completely KIDDING, lol)"


ROFL
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:09 AM
 
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Where do these statistics come from?

If you want an examination of similar statistics, Snopes did a comprehensive view of one set here: snopes.com: Just One State - Cost of Illegals in Los Angeles (Cost of illegals in Los Angeles County)

It states what was right, what was wrong, and what is unclear.

As for the website, I looked at it.
The website says: "An article in the Sacramento Bee on September 10, 2007 by Washington correspondent David Whitney summed up automatic citizenship: "Although Congress has never passed a law saying so, no president has ever ordered it, and no court has ever ruled on the issue, each of these babies automatically becomes a U.S. citizen when it takes its first breath." This is a taxpayer injustice."

The U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment lays out what is required for citizenships. Being born in the U.S. = Automatic citizenship. Unless somehow another amendment goes through, I don't see how this will change.

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Originally Posted by BerryPie View Post
Folks,

Those who are against illegal aliens reaping everything we have set aside for our children and grandchildren, are NOT against LEGAL IMMIGRATS, and LEGAL IMMIGRATION! There is a vast difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL.

People, we are going to lose our country if the average citizen does not understand what we are really up against here. READ THESE STATISTICS BELOW, AND THEN GET BUSY! Call your elected officials and demand they FOLLOW THE IMMIGRATION LAWS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!!! Period.

ILLEGAL ALIEN STATISTICS
Summary: On average each day 25 Americans die at the hands of criminal aliens in the United States. Twelve Americans are murdered by criminal aliens. Another ten Americans are killed by drunk-driving criminal aliens. Finally, an additional three Americans will die because of negligent homicides by criminal aliens, such as running a red light, speeding, or the negligent handling of a dangerous weapon.

Murder - The willful (non-negligent) killing of one human being by another. This includes first and second-degree murder, as well as non-negligent manslaughter. Murder does not include deaths caused by negligence, suicide, or accident; justifiable homicides; attempts to murder or assaults to murder, which are considered “aggravated assaults.”

Negligent Homicide - Negligent homicide is the killing of another person through gross negligence or without malice. It can also be considered a death that is the result of the negligent operation of a motor vehicle, which includes the operation of a car, boat or snowmobile.

Source: Iowa Representative Steve King (IA-5) first brought these alarming statistics to our attention earlier this year. Recently, Congressman King was the guest of Bill O’Reilly who had asked the Iowan come on his show to discuss his findings in greater detail.

Statistics:

Criminal Alien Prison Population –
According to an April 7th, 2005 General Accounting Office (GAO) study entitled, “Information on Criminal Aliens Incarcerated in Federal and State Prisons and Local Jails” [Report # GAO-05-337R] prepared for the Congressional Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims:

“27% of the total population in all U.S. prison systems (including city, county, state and federal) is composed of criminal aliens.”

Total Murders in the U.S. in 2005 –
According to the FBI, there were 16,692 persons murdered in the U.S. in 2005. The Uniform Crime Reporting Program defines murder and non-negligent manslaughter as the willful killing of one human being by another.

Total Drunk-Driving Fatalities in the U.S. in 2005 –
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 12,945 Americans were killed in car crashes where the driver had a blood alcohol concentration of .08g/dL or higher in 2005.

Calculations:
Total number of people murdered in the U.S. at the hands of criminal aliens in 2005: 4,507
This number is calculated by taking 27% multiplied by the total number of murders in the U.S. in 2005 (.27 x 16,692 = 4,507)
This figure equals approximately 12 murders every day at the hands of criminal aliens (4,507 / 365 = 12)

Total number of people killed in the U.S. as a result of drunk-driving criminal aliens in 2005: 3,495
This number is calculated by taking 27% multiplied by the total number of alcohol-related fatalities in 2005 (.27 x 12,945 = 3,495)
This figure equals approximately 10 deaths every day at the hands of criminal alien drunk drivers (3,495 / 365 = 10)

Conclusions:
Twenty-five Americans die at the hands of criminal aliens every day in the U.S.
(12 murders + 10 drunk-driving fatalities + 3 negligent homicides = 25 deaths every day)

In the year 2005, criminal aliens killed more than three times the number of Americans murdered in the terrorist attacks of 9-11 died.
9,125 Americans died at the hands of criminal aliens in 2005, as compared to approximately 3,000 Americans who perished in 9-11.

Additional Statistics:
Federal prison criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in federal prison: 48,708
Mexico 63%, Colombia and Dominican Republic 7% each, Jamaica 4%, Cuba 3% and El Salvador 2%, remaining countries represent less than 2% each.
Source: Bureau of Prisons (BOP)

Top 5 State prisons system criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in top 5 states’ prison systems: 51,600
Mexico 58%, Cuba and Dominican Republic 5% each, El Salvador 4%, Jamaica 3%, remaining countries represent less than 3% each.

Top 5 local jails’ criminal alien population:
Total number of criminal aliens in top 5 states’ prison systems: 170,000
Mexico 65%, El Salvador 6%, Guatemala 3%, remaining countries represent less than 3% each.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:58 AM
 
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BerryPie
Please share with me where you get your stats.
( RE: The Real Cost of Illegal Aliens )

Urgent -- I'm researching and need this fast.
And, I have lost lots of data --- need to recover quickly.

Email me:
CAJeffO@Yahoo.com

Thanks!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:17 AM
 
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One misguided fact is all it takes to give our enemy a chance to attack us.
I'm disgusted.

[SIZE=2]Here we have a group of people (backing illegal immigration) who seem to be able to rightfully discredit:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] - Lou Dobbs[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] - Madeline Cosman[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] - Frosty Wooldridge[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]And, any one else because it seems obvious that Madeline Cosman made a huge mistake in her speech about TB & Leprosy.[/SIZE]
http://www.youtube.com/user/TruthInImmigration
This could cost "our cause" dearly if we can't shut them down with a stronger argument than they present. If we can't discredit their argument? We better do some damage control.

It leads to articles like this: http://www.alternet.org/media/54185

Far as I can see they are right!!!!!!
http://www.hrsa.gov/hansens/30yeartrend.htm
From 1976 to 2006 (30 years) we had a total of: 7,166 cases
In the years 2003, 04, 05 we only had 431 cases of leprosy.

Please tell me that I'm wrong and show me proof.
Cause I want to shut down the new push by "TruthInImmigration" on Youtube.com

I shall also contact: http://www.hrsa.gov/hansens/clinicalcenter.htm
asking them to help me seek the truth on this debate.

Best Regards,
CAJeffO

P.S.
Here we see a case for real concern.
* According to this: http://www.hrsa.gov/hansens/30yeartrend.htm
* And this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprosy
The USA had 166 cases in 2005. Assuming Canada had an equal amount that's only 332 cases for the year of 2005.
In 2005, south America, had more than 41,000 cases of leprosy. Just in 2005.

Table 1: Prevalence at beginning of 2006, and trends in new case detection 2001-2005, excluding EuropeRegionRegistered prevalence
(rate/1,000,000 pop.)New case detection during the yearStart of 200620012002200320042005Africa40,830 (0.56)39,61248,24847,00646,91842,814Americas (north & south)32,904 (0.39)42,83039,93952,43552,66241,780South-East Asia133,422 (0.81)668,658520,632405,147298,603201,635Eastern Mediterranean4,024 (0.09)4,7584,6653,9403,3923,133Western Pacific8,646 (0.05)7,4047,1546,1906,2167,137Totals219,826763,26 2620,638514,718407,791296,499

* Now that's a greater reason to slow down or stop illegal immigration!!!!!!
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