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Old 03-28-2007, 09:45 AM
 
Location: CA Coast
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I see a bunch of people whining, if they aren't capable of defending their borders, they don't deserve their country. If the Mexicans are able to infiltrate and take over this country successfully that is the flow of history.

That the whiners whine instead of acting. Remember, the political leadership will respond to pressure. Create the pressure, stop complaining.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Naples
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I see a bunch of people whining, if they aren't capable of defending their borders, they don't deserve their country. If the Mexicans are able to infiltrate and take over this country successfully that is the flow of history.

That the whiners whine instead of acting. Remember, the political leadership will respond to pressure. Create the pressure, stop complaining.
People are pressuring political leaders. The problem is, our political leaders are corrupt.
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Old 03-28-2007, 09:55 AM
 
Location: CA Coast
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There were those Romans who complained that the Barbarians were at the gate, however the pressure they applied to the leadership was not enough. We may have the same problem today.
If the population won't protect the country, does the population deserve the country. America may be on the way to the dustbin. Each of the whiners needs to schedule an appointment with their Congress person and make their case, start there, grass roots political action.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:48 PM
 
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Default Back on the Border

Exactly how much attention is needed before our political leaders pay attention to this problem? Apparently Greatbasin doesn't have a clue regarding the amount of letters, marches, personal appointments, and the like that have been continually bombarding these so-called leaders. The president has been here twice...homeland security detail was here twice... Gov. Rick Perry has been here for dinner on a few occassions with friends who live here and are staunch supporters of the Minutemen...Lt. Gov. has been here on several occassions. There is still a VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM. The political leaders know the problem, yet it still exists.

As far as taking personal action, that is what the majority of those of us who are here legally and living on this border have done...much to the dismay of Border Patrol and the National Guard. Those of you who do not live in a society such as this--by-in-large--have no clue as to the true dangers and daily threats that we receive. Imagine 20-30 people stomping through your yard in the middle of the night, many of whom carry weapons and drugs. You call the police, right? Well, the police arrive--long after your trespassers are gone and have left clothing and trash behind them. The cops tell you not to worry about it and to go back to sleep. Yeah...right...good luck.

Whining? Are you out of your mind? We apparently aren't whining enough... It's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease, right? Now if you think for one second that mostly uneducated illegally immigrants can sneak through the border and an educated terrorist can't, then you truly do not have a grip on reality. We have counted several occurrances where the police, Border Patrol, and National Guard have had no choice but to turn tail and run because of armed incursions. These are Mexican Federalis/Army coming across our borders armed to the teeth to square-off on our armed U S border agents so that their drug runners can cross without too much conflict.

This isn't whining. This is cold, hard fact. And our political leaders know about it. When Border police can't stop the incursions from occurring...and our leaders can't stop the incursions from occurring...those of us good, tax-paying citizens that are left are the ONLY ONES LEFT to make a stand.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:20 AM
 
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GB...you should be banned by now... someone should get out that can of troll spray.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Ca Cap & Central Ca
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Wont do em any good considering that their own country is in shambles and an utter failure. Its obvious that they just cant make ends meet, do they expect to do any better here? ALL ILLEGALS NEED TO BE ROUNDED UP AND SHIPPED BACK. Build a wall that runs 100 ft below the ground and 100 ft above. Line it with barbed wire/razor wire/trip lights/heat sensors/infrared sensors. Patrol it with AH-60 Apache gunships, "Spookys" and HMMVWs and see how many more break the law and enter illegally. Then, set up a immigration booth at the border cities, have it patrolled by armed forces and make them go through the process just like every other legal immigrant had to go through. Thats my stance.
THANK YOU !!!!
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Ca Cap & Central Ca
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tHANK yOU LeeLeeCat
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Ca Cap & Central Ca
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GBG, this comment serves no purpose. This is a legitimate issue.

What I would LOVE to see is us pull those 100,000+ troops out of Iraq and put them right on the border with Mexico, then give Fox an ultimatum, "You control your border or we're going to control it for you".

Our border issue is far, far more serious than any terrorist threat. No terrorist, or group of terrorists, can destroy this country. But our lack of border security certainly can.
I agree. The purpose of the Natioanl Guard is to protect our nation and borders, not be deployed all over the world. Our border obviously needs to be protected to keep these foreign nationals from invading our country as they are doing.
P.S. And thank you for telling GBG that his comment serves no purpose.

Last edited by mmouwse; 04-13-2007 at 12:05 PM.. Reason: p.s. .....
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:14 PM
 
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How much must happen before this issue it truly taken seriously? How many must be injured? How many must die? The statistics are daunting. For those who read this post but still do not appreciate the severity of the situation, do a little research on-line. There are numerous web sites that are very bi-partisan and report only facts in relation to this cause. It is understandable that those who do not live with the problem of illegal immigration can not possibly comprehend the dangers of allowing this problem to go unchecked. All I ask is that you educate yourselves to the facts...then, and only then, can you make wise comments toward what many of us must condend with on a daily basis.

I wish all of you wisdom. Be educated, and make intelligent choices in your opinions.

LeeLeeCat
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:25 PM
 
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Illegal immigration is a crime. USC Title 8, section 1324
Who enforces the laws? Many who have been seriously injured and others who have died in their quest to protect U S citizens. A few who are even serving time in prison--unjustly!
Do your research. Become informed. Know the facts. Pray for those who suffer--on both sides of the border. And then, support your home-base. United States Family First!

A good web-based search is "deaths caused by illegals"--very general...and extremely informative.

By the way, for those who have been reading my posts: my mother and her family are from Mexico/South America. They came here legally. They work hard, pay their taxes, give to charity, and want only the best for those with "the dream" of living in the U S. Just do it right. Be a proud, productive member of the society you have chosen to call home. Fight human trafficking, drugs, and ignorance. Be the one that makes the change and makes the difference.
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