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Unread 06-20-2008, 01:48 PM
 
Location: California
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Perhaps "massive" was a bit strong. However, irrespective of "cause" there is a serious problem; if not resolved, I hate to think of the ramifications. The violence MUST end!

Check out this video. It's 13 minutes long, but worth watching.


YouTube - Inside USA - America's new racial tension - 12April08 - Pt 1
This is a good video, because it gives you guys the truth on whats really going on .

As you can see, its not just Mexicans victimizing blacks, ethnic cleansing, or just antagonizing black people.
It goes both ways! Its LA! Bullets have been flying for years.

And as the cop said at 4:16 , statistics don't show any sign of a race war going on. Theres usually a gangbanger involved, and it rarely crosses race lines.

When they interviewed the Mexican boy who's friend got shot, he said something to the extent of, I ain't racist, but if I find the guy who did this I'm going to get him back.

Wouldn't that be a very unpopular thing to say if the overall mentality of Mexicans in LA would be to kill all black people, or whatever it is you guys are saying?


Ethnic cleansing is not going on.

Notice the video barely mentions illegal immigrants at all.

What it comes down to, is gangbangers crossing race lines, and normal people squabbling over the crappy resources in the neighborhood.

Oh yeah, and the media coming in and sensationalizing it making it much worse.
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Unread 06-20-2008, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Villaraigosaville, (a.k.a. - Los Angeles)
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So what does it have to do with illegal immigration? If you claim the problem is a race based problem then what does immigration status have to do with it?

The jails are filling up with gangbangers of various backgrounds, the growing population of them are Latino.

Latino gangsters call the shots on the streets while incarcerated.

Word filters down the ranks to the streets and the call is made to start shooting black people who are in "their neighborhoods".

Blacks are killed, black gangs retaliate and you have a street war.

This is happening in Los Angeles, I don't know about other cities because I live in Los Angeles.

jamiel shaw - Google News
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Unread 06-20-2008, 01:52 PM
 
Location: California
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The jails are filling up with gangbangers of various backgrounds, the growing population of them are Latino.

Latino gangsters call the shots on the streets while incarcerated.

Word filters down the ranks to the streets and the call is made to start shooting black people who are in "their neighborhoods".

Blacks are killed, black gangs retaliate and you have a street war.

This is happening in Los Angeles, I don't know about other cities because I live in Los Angeles.

jamiel shaw - Google News
So black people are just defending themselves from the Latinos?

When people are constantly being told and reminded of Jamiel Shaw, they should also hear about Kaitlyn Avila.
American Renaissance News: L.A. Police Say Killing Of 3-Year-Old In Gang Attack Was Intentional (http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2006/10/la_police_say_k.php - broken link)
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Unread 06-20-2008, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Villaraigosaville, (a.k.a. - Los Angeles)
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So black people are just defending themselves from the Latinos?

When people are constantly being told and reminded of Jamiel Shaw, they should also hear about Kaitlyn Avila.
American Renaissance News: L.A. Police Say Killing Of 3-Year-Old In Gang Attack Was Intentional (http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2006/10/la_police_say_k.php - broken link)

It's a never ending story of senseless violence.

Latinos shooting blacks, blacks retaliating.

Blacks shooting latinos, latinos retaliating.

And frankly, I couldn't care less who does the shooting at who, it doesn't matter because both sides are wrong.
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Unread 06-20-2008, 02:03 PM
 
Location: California
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It's a never ending story of senseless violence.

Latinos shooting blacks, blacks retaliating.

Blacks shooting latinos, latinos retaliating.

I couldn't care less who does the shooting at who, it doesn't matter because both sides are wrong.
True, but it gives the wrong impression when someone makes it seem like its the evil racist Mexicans exclusively killing innocent Black people.

It goes both ways.
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Unread 06-20-2008, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Central NJ, USA
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True, but it gives the wrong impression when someone makes it seem like its the evil racist Mexicans exclusively killing innocent Black people.

It goes both ways.

I honestly don't think that race is the proximate cause of this. It is incidental to be sure, but what is really being seen here is that desperate people at the bottom of the social pecking order are fighting over crumbs. And it gets nasty when the crumbs get smaller.
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Unread 06-20-2008, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Villaraigosaville, (a.k.a. - Los Angeles)
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I honestly don't think that race is the proximate cause of this. It is incidental to be sure, but what is really being seen here is that desperate people at the bottom of the social pecking order are fighting over crumbs. And it gets nasty when the crumbs get smaller.

If you're not aware of what is going on in Los Angeles, then you should do some research. I live here, I follow news I know what is going on in my city. What goes on where I live may not be happening where you live.

I can only speak for what happens in Los Angeles. In Los Angeles, it's racial.

I have lived here 20 years.

Whether or not you want to believe it is your business, but I know what is happening in this city.

Feds: Latino Gang Targeted Blacks | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com
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Unread 06-20-2008, 02:13 PM
 
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If you're not aware of what is going on in Los Angeles, then you should do some research. I live here, I follow news I know what is going on in my city. What goes on where I live may not be happening where you live.

I can only speak for what happens in Los Angeles. In Los Angeles, it's racial.

I have lived here 20 years.

Whether or not you want to believe it is your business, but I know what is happening in this city.

Feds: Latino Gang Targeted Blacks | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com
So black gangs are not targeting latinos? I keep seeing stories or headlines of latinos targeting blacks but no one ever posts any stories of black gangs targeting latinos. I wonder why?
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Unread 06-20-2008, 02:13 PM
 
Location: California
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I honestly don't think that race is the proximate cause of this. It is incidental to be sure, but what is really being seen here is that desperate people at the bottom of the social pecking order are fighting over crumbs. And it gets nasty when the crumbs get smaller.
Thats the way I see it, anyways. At least at the community level.
The gangs are on a whole other trip.
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Unread 06-20-2008, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Villaraigosaville, (a.k.a. - Los Angeles)
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True, but it gives the wrong impression when someone makes it seem like its the evil racist Mexicans exclusively killing innocent Black people.

It goes both ways.
Nowhere in my post did I pit one side against the other.

Nor did I say in my post that one side is the demon the other side the innocent.

If you got that impression you're trying to read "between the lines".

People need to deal with the words on the screen and leave their personal emotional issues off of these threads.
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