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Old 06-25-2008, 08:16 AM
 
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Driving Cabs Instead of Building Bridges, Iraqis Languish in U.S. - washingtonpost.com

Our U.S. government should be trying to help these Iraqis who've assisted US causes not these border-hoppers who could care less about the US and only what they can get from it.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:49 AM
 
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Good post- I absolutely agree.


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Old 06-26-2008, 06:48 PM
 
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Driving Cabs Instead of Building Bridges, Iraqis Languish in U.S. - washingtonpost.com

Our U.S. government should be trying to help these Iraqis who've assisted US causes not these border-hoppers who could care less about the US and only what they can get from it.
These are just people who want a better life for their families. Just like the vast majority of immigrant no matter what their legal status.
The only difference is the U.S. invaded their country and blew it to ****, so now the government owes it to some of them to bring them over.

You make it sound like "border-hoppers" are more greedy than the average human.
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:59 PM
 
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These are just people who want a better life for their families. Just like the vast majority of immigrant no matter what their legal status.
The only difference is the U.S. invaded their country and blew it to ****, so now the government owes it to some of them to bring them over.

You make it sound like "border-hoppers" are more greedy than the average human.
No, these Iraqis worked to assist the United States in Iraq and now are facing retaliation for their assistance to the US.

There is a right way to make a better life for your family and a wrong way and I made this post to highlight immigrant families who are struggling to do it the right way. I have no problem with illegal alien families wanting a better life, my problem is that the wrong way they are doing it is making it tougher for legal and US families to do it the right way.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:16 PM
 
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These are just people who want a better life for their families. Just like the vast majority of immigrant no matter what their legal status.
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Sorry, but once again, their "legal status" means something....even if it's not what we want to hear.

I can assure you, just about EVERYBODY on earth, one way or another, wants 'a better life for their family'. How they go about achieving this, though, makes a HUGE difference. Making a better life by doing things illegally is NOT the same as making it legally.

Notice I'm not saying "illegals are violent"..or "evil"...or "awful". But they ARE illegal....and that's a LOT different from 'playing by the rules'...especially in a society that only exists because it's based on 'law'....
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:22 AM
 
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Driving Cabs Instead of Building Bridges, Iraqis Languish in U.S. - washingtonpost.com

Our U.S. government should be trying to help these Iraqis who've assisted US causes not these border-hoppers who could care less about the US and only what they can get from it.
Why? I've seen Hmong and other SE Asian aliens do little to better themselves and their ilk after over 30 years "in country". That they (or their families) aided the U.S. effort in SE Asia says little about what "they" would do for US. Indeed, very little.

The Iraqi "refugees" (like the "pro-Iraq" (read pro-Iranian Shi'a) friendlies or c.f. taqqiyah) are no benefit to this country. May I point to your pro-Islamics post when one of them blows up the Pentagon [again]?
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Old 06-27-2008, 05:20 AM
 
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These are just people who want a better life for their families. Just like the vast majority of immigrant no matter what their legal status.
The only difference is the U.S. invaded their country and blew it to ****, so now the government owes it to some of them to bring them over.

You make it sound like "border-hoppers" are more greedy than the average human.



Border hoppers-while maybe not more greedy-are certainly less patient and obviously less willing to play by the rules and get in line.
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Old 06-27-2008, 05:29 AM
 
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Why? I've seen Hmong and other SE Asian aliens do little to better themselves and their ilk after over 30 years "in country". That they (or their families) aided the U.S. effort in SE Asia says little about what "they" would do for US. Indeed, very little.

The Iraqi "refugees" (like the "pro-Iraq" (read pro-Iranian Shi'a) friendlies or c.f. taqqiyah) are no benefit to this country. May I point to your pro-Islamics post when one of them blows up the Pentagon [again]?
Well let's see if we are worried about pro-Islamic terrorists-maybe a good start would be to track every person who comes in on a valid visa. If we had been able to track the 9-11 terrorists, we would have known they had overstayed their visas and "maybe" had a better chance of stopping this.

Also we could secure our border 100% as we know it is not only Mexicans /Central Americans coming across the border. Mostly-yes. But not all.

To me there is a big difference between pro-Islamics we let in on visas who claim they harbor no ill will than Iraqis who lie down in the trenches with American soldiers and are put in harms way.
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Old 06-27-2008, 06:14 AM
 
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Why? I've seen Hmong and other SE Asian aliens do little to better themselves and their ilk after over 30 years "in country". That they (or their families) aided the U.S. effort in SE Asia says little about what "they" would do for US. Indeed, very little.

The Iraqi "refugees" (like the "pro-Iraq" (read pro-Iranian Shi'a) friendlies or c.f. taqqiyah) are no benefit to this country. May I point to your pro-Islamics post when one of them blows up the Pentagon [again]?
This post has NOTHING to do with Islam. I could care less about a immigrant's religion. My concern with immigrants are whether they go through the legal process or do it illegally.

The illegals are the ones who are of no benefit to this country.
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:40 AM
 
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The illegals are the ones who are of no benefit to this country.
The illegals are also trashing our neighborhoods because they do not pay for trash pickup.


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