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Old 06-28-2008, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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What about the thousands of kids(dream act kids) who were brought here at a young age without their own volition? Surely i have seen a lot of posts on here referring to them as criminals.
Actually, I think you've seen them referred to as victims of their parents' criminality.
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:08 AM
 
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^actually no.. they have been called criminals.
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:39 AM
 
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I think it's time to start prosecuting all employers of illegals. And their illegals be deported.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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What about the thousands of kids(dream act kids) who were brought here at a young age without their own volition? Surely i have seen a lot of posts on here referring to them as criminals.
I don't believe you'll find one post (other than a troll) accusing innocent children of illegal aliens of being "criminal." Now, when said children decide to join gangs and engage in criminal activities such as the murderer of Jamiel Shaw, they forfeit their “innocent” status, and are in fact “criminal.”

Likewise, when they use stolen or fraudulent SSNs to gain employment, they forfeit their “innocent” status. When they decide to drive (sober or drunk) without a drivers’ license and without insurance, they also forfeit their “innocent” status.

Furthermore, not all illegal alien ‘children’ are “Dreamies,” and not all Dreamies are of good character; as evidenced by some of the “how to” (circumvent U.S. laws) threads and comments found on their website. Lately, they have thoroughly enjoyed bragging about the fact that some of their “illegal” parents have managed to receive the stimulus rebate checks, which our government “guaranteed” would only be issued to “legal” taxpayers.

They may not enter this country of their own volition; however, they soon learn the “tricks of the trade” from their parents, along with a sense of entitlement; and feel no remorse for unlawful behavior. After all, the U.S. “forces” them to break the law.
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Old 06-28-2008, 11:02 AM
 
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They may not enter this country of their own volition; however, they soon learn the “tricks of the trade” from their parents, along with a sense of entitlement; and feel no remorse for unlawful behavior. After all, the U.S. “forces” them to break the law.
There you go again....just when I manage to get my guilt even a LITTLE bit under control, you remind me of MORE reasons why I should feel guilty.

Thanks a LOT !......(but I guess I deserve it...)

If your posts ever DO finally succeed in turning me into an alcoholic, perhaps THEN you'll feel a little guilt of your OWN......
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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There you go again....just when I manage to get my guilt even a LITTLE bit under control, you remind me of MORE reasons why I should feel guilty.

Thanks a LOT !......(but I guess I deserve it...)

If your posts ever DO finally succeed in turning me into an alcoholic, perhaps THEN you'll feel a little guilt of your OWN......
Just reading your post has elicited an intense sense of guilt and shame for my despicable behavior. If you should succumb to the “disease” of alcoholism, I will certainly lead a candlelight vigil during your rehab. I will live with the guilt for the remainder of my wretched life; knowing that I alone am the culprit. As a matter of fact, I think I’ll pour a glass of wine in an attempt to numb my senses. Can you ever forgive me?
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Just reading your post has elicited an intense sense of guilt and shame for my despicable behavior. If you should succumb to the “disease” of alcoholism, I will certainly lead a candlelight vigil during your rehab. I will live with the guilt for the remainder of my wretched life; knowing that I alone am the culprit. As a matter of fact, I think I’ll pour a glass of wine in an attempt to numb my senses. Can you ever forgive me?
Boones Farm Apple?

(Oh Gawd; that reminds me of picking up several bottles of that stuff in the 1970's at a liquor store in G-town then me and two friends going out along the C & O Canal sluggin' said wine------I was one smashed M-F there. At least none of us were driving)
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Boones Farm Apple?

(Oh Gawd; that reminds me of picking up several bottles of that stuff in the 1970's at a liquor store in G-town then me and two friends going out along the C & O Canal sluggin' said wine------I was one smashed M-F there. At least none of us were driving)
ROFLMAO!!!

Yummy….the quintessential wine -- Boone’s Farm! Thanks for the memories.
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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Just reading your post has elicited an intense sense of guilt and shame for my despicable behavior. If you should succumb to the “disease” of alcoholism, I will certainly lead a candlelight vigil during your rehab. I will live with the guilt for the remainder of my wretched life; knowing that I alone am the culprit. As a matter of fact, I think I’ll pour a glass of wine in an attempt to numb my senses. Can you ever forgive me?
As one-time merchant seaman, and an amateur oenophile myself, it matters whether your goal is to "wash down" your chile con carne, to mask the taste of cheap sardines, or just to numb your senses. For the latter, I'd recommend vintages such as Thunderbird, Night Train, or MD 20-20. Not too much on taste, but if you want your senses numbed, that's the quickest way I know. You don't need a corkscrew, either.

Your offer of a "candlelight vigil" is touching. Just make sure you keep it away from the curtains....
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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As one-time merchant seaman, and an amateur oenophile myself, it matters whether your goal is to "wash down" your chile con carne, to mask the taste of cheap sardines, or just to numb your senses. For the latter, I'd recommend vintages such as Thunderbird, Night Train, or MD 20-20. Not too much on taste, but if you want your senses numbed, that's the quickest way I know. You don't need a corkscrew, either.

Your offer of a "candlelight vigil" is touching. Just make sure you keep it away from the curtains....
Don't forget Ripple!
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