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Old 06-28-2008, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Let me ask you a question why and how the hell did comprehensive immigration reform pass the senate in 2006? Do you mean to tell me that the "american people" didn't know about the bill then?The fact is 2007 was dangerously close to an election year and most spineless politicians didn't have the guts to do what was right.
You are correct: till employer sanctions laws are passed and enforced nationwide coupled with mass deportations, etc; I do agree with you that our politicians are spineless.
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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LOL, if you think a good percentage of blacks are going to vote for a repulican(McCain), then you are not living in reality.

I do not need amnesty but i will sure sit back and enjoy the pain of the anti-immigrant crowd when CIR is passed in the future.

I know it scares you Benicar but it won't be the end of the world for you.
They don't have to vote for McCain, to not vote for Obama. Perhaps you don’t need amnesty; only you know for sure. I tend to believe you do.

Scared? Not hardly. Please explain why I should be afraid?

To answer your question regarding the difference between 2006 and 2007 -- many people were simply not aware of the massive invasion. We are wide awake now, and will do everything in our power to defeat any and every amnesty bill.
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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They don't have to vote for McCain, to not vote for Obama. Perhaps you don’t need amnesty; only you know for sure. I tend to believe you do.

Scared? Not hardly. Please explain why I should be afraid?

To answer your question regarding the difference between 2006 and 2007 -- many people were simply not aware of the massive invasion. We are wide awake now, and will do everything in our power to defeat any and every amnesty bill.
As Benicar stated; the sleeping giant is now awake......and pissed, to be polite
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:46 PM
 
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Is that why the two presidential candidates are fighting for the support of "pro illegal fans"?

Are they so stupid that they will go against the will of the american people? Or do they know most americans support both enforcement and a path to legalization?
What Obama and McCain are doing is pandering for the Hispanic vote. They believe that whichever party grants amnesty (by whatever name they wish to call it) first will be the party that will have millions of loyal voters. Our country is being sold out by both the dnc and gop so that they can grow their power bases and supply cheap labor to corporations.

It has nothing to do with what the American people think on the matter. The American people do not support amnest, er I mean a path to citizenship. What we do support is a path back to their countries of origin.
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Old 06-28-2008, 07:23 PM
 
Location: At my computador
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“Compromise is but the sacrifice of one right or good in the hope of retaining another--too often ending in the loss of both.”
Tryon Edwards
That's pathetically naive.

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I do not need amnesty but i will sure sit back and enjoy the pain of the anti-immigrant crowd when CIR is passed in the future.
You think so? When the under-educated portions of your family are getting poorer and you're waiting in line behind welfare-cases for medical attention, we'll see how much you enjoy it.

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It has nothing to do with what the American people think on the matter. The American people do not support amnest, er I mean a path to citizenship. What we do support is a path back to their countries of origin.
I think that's an oversimplification. People want cheap oil and they'll trade the border for it. They want socialized health care and they'll trade the border for it... They want everything but personal responsibility... and as long as a politician will promise them less responsibility-- Rep or Dem-- they'll give anything for it.

People don't want the border secure. They want the crimaliens housed and taxes lower. They want illegals cared for at emergency rooms and educated in public schools, but want taxes cheaper. People are just stupid.
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Old 06-28-2008, 07:35 PM
 
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Even IF what you are saying is true( which is not), African Americans will never vote for a republican over a democrat( and that is a fact).
I agree. THose African Americans are 'slick'...and most of the time, they can almost seem 'normal'. But get them into that voting booth, and the truth comes out. They just CAN'T vote for a Republican..it's genetic !....

(MOST people don't know this 'inside stuff', so don't spread it around)..
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:21 PM
 
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That's pathetically naive.
Darlin', it's not nearly as naive as this profound thought:

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Under McCain, have the problem fixed once and for all.
What a hoot! Amnesty by whatever name you care to call it will work about as well as it did in 1986. That is, not at all.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:01 PM
 
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I agree. THose African Americans are 'slick'...and most of the time, they can almost seem 'normal'. But get them into that voting booth, and the truth comes out. They just CAN'T vote for a Republican..it's genetic !....

(MOST people don't know this 'inside stuff', so don't spread it around)..
They could vote republican but certainly not in the next election cycle.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:06 PM
 
Location: At my computador
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Darlin', it's not nearly as naive as this profound thought:



What a hoot! Amnesty by whatever name you care to call it will work about as well as it did in 1986. That is, not at all.
Please don't refer to me as "darlin". It makes me feel uncomfortable.

I think McCain will complete the fence. If that's true, that's the compromise we're facing (barring an influx of anti-illegal alien legislators this cycle). I'd rather have the fence and all that scum legalized than have all that scum legalized and more scum still easily crossing the border.

What other choice is there? Waste a vote?
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:16 AM
 
Location: California
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I agree. THose African Americans are 'slick'...and most of the time, they can almost seem 'normal'. But get them into that voting booth, and the truth comes out. They just CAN'T vote for a Republican..it's genetic !....

(MOST people don't know this 'inside stuff', so don't spread it around)..
It says it all in voting trends. I dont think he means its impossible for a Black to vote republican, of course many do. But voting trends show that the majority of Blacks traditionally vote Democrat.

I don't know why you guys are debating that.

Next thing you know, I'm going to start hearing that NY votes republican.

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