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Old 01-16-2007, 11:53 AM
 
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It's hard to believe our moderators allow posts that endorse breaking Federal laws, and posts that profess intention to give assistance to those breaking Federal laws. And it's hard to believe that posters despise the American working poor this much as to want to send them to the back of the line for job opportunities, behind the Federal law-breakers. Wow.

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Old 01-16-2007, 11:57 AM
 
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I don't believe the quote of many Americans was directly referring to you. I would rather hire hard working illegal immigrants, then folks who disrespect them and spend a great deal of their lives whining and complaining of their presence.
Suit yourself, Swift meats I understand did that and paid the penalty.
When this is all said and done, there could be a huge legal consenquence for anyone that has ever been proven to hire illegals.
Have you ever heard of the Rico Law?
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Near Charlotte, NC
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The RICO statute is directed at 'running a continual criminal enterprise'. Unless employers are fined, and hiring illegal aliens is outlawed, the RICO Act does not apply to this.
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:42 PM
 
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Illegal hiring of illegals is no longer illegal?
That is definately news to me.
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:43 PM
 
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Someone tell me where I can move that the illegals have not took over.
They devaluate the property here, they stand in huddles waiting on work or whatever.
My wife is scared to go in the local market, she says they stare and make comments.
My high schoolers can't get part time jobs, they are taken.
I could go on and on, but I have had enough and just want to move.
Northern MI. It seems extreme, but it's really the only place I can think of that I've been too that hasn't been inundated with illegals. I found it wierd when I first moved out here to Kalamazoo (sw MI) at how few Hispanics there were in general. Only in very small pockets are there illegals here working on farms (wierd, some places have Americans doing these jobs? I thought these were jobs Americans wouldn't do), but it seems that many leave after the harvest. The climate can be a little much for people moving out here, but I've been pleasantly surprised, Lake Michigan keeps it relatively warm in the winter compared to the other side of the lake. It's not bad, but I still long for the pacific NW, cause that's what I love (except the illegals!! ). Good luck.

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Old 01-16-2007, 12:50 PM
 
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The RICO statute is directed at 'running a continual criminal enterprise'. Unless employers are fined, and hiring illegal aliens is outlawed, the RICO Act does not apply to this.
What part of the Rico Act does this not apply to?
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Near Charlotte, NC
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Unless the company in question is classified as a ongoing criminal enterprise the RICO Act does not apply.

RICO offenses and definitions

Racketeering activity means:

* Any act or threat involving gambling, murder, kidnapping, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), which is chargeable under State law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year;
* Any act which is indictable under a wide variety of specific provisions of title 18 of the United States Code relating to bribery, counterfeiting, theft, embezzlement, fraud, obscene matter, obstruction of justice, slavery, racketeering, gambling, money laundering, commission of murder-for-hire, etc.
* Any act which is indictable under title 29, United States Code, section 186 (dealing with restrictions on payments and loans to labor organizations) or section 501 (c) (relating to embezzlement from union funds),
* Any offense involving fraud connected with a case under title 11 (except a case under section 157 of this title), fraud in the sale of securities, or the felonious manufacture, importation, receiving, concealment, buying, selling, or otherwise dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), punishable under any law of the United States,
* Any act which is indictable under the Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act,
* Any act which is indictable under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 274 (relating to bringing in and harboring certain aliens), section 277 (relating to aiding or assisting certain aliens to enter the United States), or section 278 (relating to importation of alien for immoral purpose) if the act indictable under such section of such Act was committed for the purpose of financial gain, or
* Any act that is indictable under any provision listed in section 2332b (g)(5)(B);

Read the whole article for yourself - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rackete...anizations_Act
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Old 01-16-2007, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Near Charlotte, NC
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Now, if a company brings in illegal aliens and gives them shelter for the sole purpose of working for that company then yes - that is prosecutable under the RICO Act.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Near Charlotte, NC
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And remember, this is AMERICA - the burden of proof is on the accuser. The government would have to prove that a company knowingly hired illegal aliens in order for the company to be found guilty. And that is not easy considering many illegals have forged documents like social security cards, birth certificates, etc.

The companies are not 'document analysts'. They cannot tell beyond a doubt that a document is forged or if it is genuine. That is the main reason why no law of this nature has passed - yet.
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Old 01-16-2007, 01:06 PM
 
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I read somewhere that lawsuits were being filed due to unfair competition.
Example, your labor cost is so much less than mine due to hiring illegals that I have to go out of business.
I thought the article said it fell under the Rico Law, however I could be wrong and know nothing about laws.
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