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Old 07-01-2008, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Why are you sticking up for "LaRaza" blacknight? They only get a pass on being racist from clueless Americans because they're able to hide behind the "we're a minority" shield, despite the fact that "The Race" they pretend to represent ("Hispanics") doesn't exist biologically, and is instead a loose cultural affiliation akin to the British commonwealth.
blacknight04 is showing more and more signs of desperation------despite its denials, the hammer is coming down harder and harder on illegals and their friends.
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:27 AM
 
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I will defer to what Benicar said as I think she said it perfectly.

LOL, Benicar didn't give any examples of the so called racism demonstrated by LaRaza. I can give you many examples of racism by the kkk, black panther, and some of these so called "anti-illegal" groups. The question is can you give me examples of LaRaza's racism?
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:29 AM
 
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Why are you sticking up for "LaRaza" blacknight? They only get a pass on being racist from clueless Americans because they're able to hide behind the "we're a minority" shield, despite the fact that "The Race" they pretend to represent ("Hispanics") doesn't exist biologically, and is instead a loose cultural affiliation akin to the British commonwealth.
Again, i keep hearing they are a racist organization yet NO ONE can give me examples of their so called racism?
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:42 AM
 
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Again, i keep hearing they are a racist organization yet NO ONE can give me examples of their so called racism?
LaRaza actively funds MEChA.

It's the "acceptable facade" that implicitly and explicity supports "downstream" radical racist organizations. Kind of like PETA funneling money to the ALF.


Also, I mean, come on: "For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" is their motto, AND:

The founder of La Raza, Jose Angel Gutiterrez has also been quoted as saying the following:


“We’re a new Mestizo nation.”
“We have got to eliminate the gringo.
And what I mean by that is if worst comes to worse, we have got to kill him."


Which is, of course, all very laughable, because "LaRaza" types think other "Latinos" sympathize with their "Chicano" cause, when they do not.
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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LaRaza actively funds MEChA.

It's the "acceptable facade" that implicitly and explicity supports "downstream" radical racist organizations. Kind of like PETA funneling money to the ALF.


Also, I mean, come on: "For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" is their motto, AND:

The founder of La Raza, Jose Angel Gutiterrez has also been quoted as saying the following:


“We’re a new Mestizo nation.”
“We have got to eliminate the gringo.
And what I mean by that is if worst comes to worse, we have got to kill him."



Which is, of course, all very laughable, because "LaRaza" types think other "Latinos" sympathize with their "Chicano" cause, when they do not.
And; needless to say: if any of the bolded racist comments were uttered by 'White' people------the FBI, ACLU and everybody else would be on us (and rightly so).

That Gutierrez guy needs to be charged under terrorism statutes as well.
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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LOL, Benicar didn't give any examples of the so called racism demonstrated by LaRaza. I can give you many examples of racism by the kkk, black panther, and some of these so called "anti-illegal" groups. The question is can you give me examples of LaRaza's racism?
Do you understand the difference between "covert" and "overt" operations? If their activities were "overt" they wouldn't be very effective as a legitimate advocacy group, would they? It suffices to say, La Raza has very long arms.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:07 AM
 
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Again, i keep hearing they are a racist organization yet NO ONE can give me examples of their so called racism?
Seems to me they advocate special status, special priveleges and permissable disregard for the law for the benefit of their own (I do not notice them advocating for poor migrants from Poland).

Now, it would be one thing if they were advocating a fair deal for those that are here legally or just helping legal newcomers to assimilate or get grounded. Every ethnic group has or has had groups that do this. Nothing new there.

But by demanding the right to circumvent laws, they are in effect putting themselves above the law and above others. Now, that is not the same as attacking freedom marchers or lynching innocents. But its within the sphere of racism for it is advancing your race above others and above the law. And tham my friend, is RACIST.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:13 AM
 
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LaRaza actively funds MEChA.

It's the "acceptable facade" that implicitly and explicity supports "downstream" radical racist organizations. Kind of like PETA funneling money to the ALF.


Also, I mean, come on: "For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" is their motto, AND:

The founder of La Raza, Jose Angel Gutiterrez has also been quoted as saying the following:


We’re a new Mestizo nation.”
“We have got to eliminate the gringo.
And what I mean by that is if worst comes to worse, we have got to kill him."


Which is, of course, all very laughable, because "LaRaza" types think other "Latinos" sympathize with their "Chicano" cause, when they do not.
You got any links to what you are saying?

Btw, the laraza you are talking about is laraza unida...it is different from LaRaza.


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ose Angel Gutierrez, Chicano activist and founder of La Raza Unida party, the Mexican American Youth Organization and other community groups, will speak and sign copies of his latest book Monday at the University of New Mexico
La Raza Founder To Speak at UNM. | Albuquerque Journal (Albuquerque, NM) (March, 2000) (http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-1934038_ITM - broken link)

McCain and Obama are speaking before the National Council of Laraz..totally different from the radical laraza unida party.

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The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) – the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States – works to improve opportunities for Hispanic Americans. Through its network of nearly 300 affiliated community-based organizations (CBOs), NCLR reaches millions of Hispanics each year in 41 states, Puerto Rico, and the District of Columbia. To achieve its mission, NCLR conducts applied research, policy analysis, and advocacy, providing a Latino perspective in five key areas – assets/investments, civil rights/immigration, education, employment and economic status, and health. In addition, it provides capacity-building assistance to its Affiliates who work at the state and local level to advance opportunities for individuals and families.
Founded in 1968, NCLR is a private, nonprofit, nonpartisan, tax-exempt organization headquartered in Washington, DC. NCLR serves all Hispanic subgroups in all regions of the country and has operations in Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Phoenix, Sacramento, San Antonio, and San Juan, Puerto Rico.
National Council of La Raza: About NCLR (http://www.nclr.org/section/about/ - broken link)

You guys don't even know what you are talking about.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:14 AM
 
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Do you understand the difference between "covert" and "overt" operations? If their activities were "overt" they wouldn't be very effective as a legitimate advocacy group, would they? It suffices to say, La Raza has very long arms.
Again, you can't name anything racist they have done.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:17 AM
 
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Seems to me they advocate special status, special priveleges and permissable disregard for the law for the benefit of their own (I do not notice them advocating for poor migrants from Poland).

Now, it would be one thing if they were advocating a fair deal for those that are here legally or just helping legal newcomers to assimilate or get grounded. Every ethnic group has or has had groups that do this. Nothing new there.

But by demanding the right to circumvent laws, they are in effect putting themselves above the law and above others. Now, that is not the same as attacking freedom marchers or lynching innocents. But its within the sphere of racism for it is advancing your race above others and above the law. And tham my friend, is RACIST.
Have you read their mission statement?
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The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) – the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States – works to improve opportunities for Hispanic Americans.
I bet you think the NAACP is a racist organization also.
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