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Old 07-03-2008, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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There you go again with the imaginary NAU.
I won't say how ignorant this comment really is, but it's obvious you haven't been doing your homework, little buddy...
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Old 07-03-2008, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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12 million sounds right. 12 million too many but the number is more realistic then 20-30 million.

30 Million would mean 30% of Mexico is in the US...The numbers do not add up to support such a large number...As Mexico City itself has close to 20 million. So that is half of Mexico right there...Many of Mexico's educated and upper crust are not trying to get into the US. For the record, Mexico has more millionaires than German....
The US Census put the number at 9 million in 2000...

The US Border Patrol guesstimates about 4 million a year...

You do the math...
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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12 million sounds right. 12 million too many but the number is more realistic then 20-30 million.

30 Million would mean 30% of Mexico is in the US...The numbers do not add up to support such a large number...As Mexico City itself has close to 20 million. So that is half of Mexico right there...Many of Mexico's educated and upper crust are not trying to get into the US. For the record, Mexico has more millionaires than German....
This is going irk many of the anti illegal crowd:

I suspect we 'only' have about 7 million illegals (mostly Mexican/Central American) actually here in the USA.....now, add in 2 Anchor Babies per illegal-------that will put us to our '20 million' people of questionable (at best) right to be here in the USA.

And; with the declining economy......states with no employer sanctions laws are losing some of their illegals as well------employers are more likely to cut 'em loose first (no unemployment need be paid).
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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This is going irk many of the anti illegal crowd:

I suspect we 'only' have about 7 million illegals (mostly Mexican/Central American) actually here in the USA.....now, add in 2 Anchor Babies per illegal-------that will put us to our '20 million' people of questionable (at best) right to be here in the USA.

And; with the declining economy......states with no employer sanctions laws are losing some of their illegals as well------employers are more likely to cut 'em loose first (no unemployment need be paid).
AB, I'm not irked by your comment, but that number flies in the face of even the pro-illegals. We've been hearing 12 million for the last 5 years from THAT crowd, and that assumes that not a single illegal has come here since. The Border Patrol's best guess is that somewhere between 4-10,000 A NIGHT are coming El Norte.
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