Pro-Illegal viewpoints (representation, drivers, conservative, Attorney)

[Convert 54]

Originally Posted by Raggy dee Ann

I think I may have hit a raw spot, because I noticed you have posted 4 one liners directed at me. Calm down big boy I had to take a phone call so couldn't respond to you. Any way I'm back now, so what is it you want? You've gotten yourself so wound up you are prolly frothing at the mouth at this point

Ooops I forgot it's the 4th over there so can I take it that the brews are going to your head?

OK OK, I have to admit I did chuckle a bit over that one........I tremble at the resposne in reply to mine...............

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by barbarazo

I disagree, this is a nation that has flourished with undocumented immigrants from all over the world, at this moment we desperately need
hard working immigrants, that will allow us to compete globally

Flourished?

I think not.

Since we have been inudated with those lawbreakers........wages for blue collar Americans have dropped vis a vis the so-called 'Yuppie class', etc.

I have no sympathy for a '$30K millionaire' if they have to clean their own yard, etc. since they otherwise would have to pay market rate wages for Americans/green card holders.

[Prinny]

What is a 30K millionare?

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by Prinny

What is a 30K millionare?

Someone who does not make a high figure income yet puts on airs about being affluent.

Oftentimes the truly wealthy people drive stock Chevys and Fords, etc.----not Mercedes Benz's, etc.

[Prinny]

Oh a make pretend we're rich people. People really do that? I guess so.

Thanks, I was curious what that was.

[High Springs Gator]

Originally Posted by barbarazo

I disagree, this is a nation that has flourished with undocumented immigrants from all over the world, at this moment we desperately need
hard working immigrants, that will allow us to compete globally

How do you expect Mexico to compete if all their hard working citizens keep coming to America.

[Dee-Nice]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Deport the illegals, ban them from re-entry for 3-5 years and seize their ill gotten assets.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this nation founded upon by the Ill actions of outsiders? I don't know about you, but I consider invading another people's land and robbing them of all that they have, raping and killing most of them and shoving the survivors into pockets of unfertile and undesirable land, more than ill. The way that I see it: if outsiders come into this land and take that which is not theirs, it seems in accordance with Sir Isaac Newton's third law, which basically states that for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction---what goes around comes around.

[okie333]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

You clearly do not like the USA 'growing a pair' and us starting to secure our borders against illegal immigrants........methinks that London is more to your liking.

lol

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by Dee-Nice

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this nation founded upon by the Ill actions of outsiders? I don't know about you, but I consider invading another people's land and robbing them of all that they have, raping and killing most of them and shoving the survivors into pockets of unfertile and undesirable land, more than ill. The way that I see it: if outsiders come into this land and take that which is not theirs, it seems in accordance with Sir Isaac Newton's third law, which basically states that for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction---what goes around comes around.

Now; why is it OK to castigate 'White' (Euro) people for actions that were acceptable under the cultural mores of 1492 yet it was perfectly acceptable for the Aztecs to go around catching/killing people by cutting out their still beating hearts?

Yes; it should not have happened (again by today's moral standards); but the indigenous people here were subjugated by a bigger, badder group of 'Indians'.

Things cannot be reversed------we as a group are all too mixed but genetically as well as culturally.

Let what happened in 1492 serve as a warning that we (the USA) could be conquered again------just that we are still quite strong enough to cripple any potential invader.

[nicolem]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Now; why is it OK to castigate 'White' (Euro) people for actions that were acceptable under the cultural mores of 1492 yet it was perfectly acceptable for the Aztecs to go around catching/killing people by cutting out their still beating hearts?

Yes; it should not have happened (again by today's moral standards); but the indigenous people here were subjugated by a bigger, badder group of 'Indians'.

Things cannot be reversed------we as a group are all too mixed but genetically as well as culturally.

Let what happened in 1492 serve as a warning that we (the USA) could be conquered again------just that we are still quite strong enough to cripple any potential invader.

Absolutely-great post!

Nicolem