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Old 07-16-2008, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Right, that's why he has been MARRIED to A MEXICAN Woman for more than 25 years. As for what his daughters do, why is that an issue. The Dobbs family is living the life they can afford to live.
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Lou Dobbs wife appears to be of mainly "España" features, I wouldn't be suprised if she probably discriminates against her own "Indigenous" "Mestizo" people.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:38 PM
 
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From what I've gathered, Lou Dobbs seems pretty strongly anti-Hispanic, particularly anti-Mexican.
HOWEVER, his two daughters are deeply involved in fancy horse riding and showing, a hobby that requires great gobs of money to afford, and the people who support that hobby are apparently mostly or all Hispanic who are paid low wages for their work...

What's wrong with that picture??
What is wrong is the fact that you are speaking complete rubbish. Lou is married to a beutiful woman of Mexican descent and his kids are Hispanic. You might want to get your facts straight before you post your diatribes about someone you know nothing about. Lou is not anti-Hispanic at all and the only people who think he is are the people who want to find something about him to be against.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:39 PM
 
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Oh and having a Hispanic wife doesn't mean you can say whatever you want about Hispanics and have it not be racist. An Apple is an Apple. Racism is Racism.

Racism - Noun
2. discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race

racism - Definitions from Dictionary.com
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:40 PM
 
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Lou Dobbs wife appears to be of mainly "España" features, I wouldn't be suprised if she probably discriminates against her own "Indigenous" "Mestizo" people.
I knew that you wanted to hate hom for anything and now you are saying things about his wife, whom you do not know anything about. I do love it when the open borders lobby shows they losing. Thank you for that.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:43 PM
 
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I knew that you wanted to hate hom for anything and now you are saying things about his wife, whom you do not know anything about. I do love it when the open borders lobby shows they losing. Thank you for that.
I don't know her, but how she could live a guy who is known to be "anti-her" needs an explanation IMO and that is what I offered.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:44 PM
 
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Dobbs has not lied about the border but you people who have no knowledge about the border keep saying he is. I have lived close to the border and in 3 different border states and I have family in all four of the southern border states and YES, there is deep trouble at and near the border. The drug cartels are now coming into our country much more frequently and our citizens are now getting killed, not to mention the poor Mexican citizens who are getting killed right and left in the border towns of Mexico.

Dobbs also does not support separatist views, but there are many in here who want nothing more than to help and to continue the invasion of our country by illegals from SOB.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:50 PM
 
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Mr. Dobbs wants to seperate America from the world. That is seperatist. Build a fence. I don't care. Militarize the border. Doesn't matter to me. All I am saying is that it wont solve the problem. The problem is the economy in central and south america which the US has helped to destroy. People will continue to try to enter this country until that becomes equal.

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Old 07-16-2008, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Central NJ, USA
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I don't know her, but how she could live a guy who is known to be "anti-her" needs an explanation IMO and that is what I offered.
Is Mrs Dobbs an illegal immigrant?
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:00 PM
 
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Lou Dobbs wife appears to be of mainly "España" features, I wouldn't be suprised if she probably discriminates against her own "Indigenous" "Mestizo" people.

Thanks for the racial comments.
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:02 PM
 
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I have no problem with Lou as a Person, but as a person who lies about the reality of the border and essentailly claims that millions of tons of drugs come over the border and that a large majority of those crossing are terrorists i do have a problem. This is not the reality. The reality is that a large majority of people who come over are workers who are obeying the "free market" which does not exist and is in fact controlled by the will of the very same evil corporations and businesses that Mr. Dobbs expresses his dislike of. The issue is that the US Government and US corporations and US dominated Trade Organizations (WTO, IMF, World Bank, Etc.) have dictated the terms of economic conditions of other countries especially in south america. If the economic conditions in Mexico were better, the cartel problem would be lower as the attraction would decrease give the risk reward ratio. If there were more jobs in Mexico, less mexicans would be interested in joining the cartel because they would have good, steady and reliable employment inside a more stable economy. Building a border fence will not solve the problem-it would only isolate it. Improving the economy would certainly help.

Lou Dobbs would rather have us rally together in a sense of fear for the millions of mexican drug cartel terrorists who are coming to our country to hand out heroin on Halloween than to truly understand the extremely complex situation that exists in reality. The truth is that ALL of the 9/11 terrorist came over on valid and legal visas given by the US government. This causes less suspicion should the individual ever have a run in with government officials and is continually used by all criminal organizations. The problem is that US foriegn policy is based on dominance instead of joining the world commmunity on a collaborative side. This policy is self destructive. This is not to say that American people are bad or evil, but instead to note that the government has conducted business to attempt to keep itself as the sole dominant power in a world that is continually becoming more global. The strategy is not effective. Lou Dobbs would like the US to become like China or Japan were in early modern times. We would be shut off from the world and we would loose dearly from it. During that time in Asian history, the societies once seen as leading in the technological edge ended up being far behind the times and then became servants of other more powerful nations. For those who are nationalist, you should look at this point in history. Our nation would be destroyed by following the protectionist policies put forward by Mr. Dobbs.

We don't just have to fight for our jobs, but as big business moves over seas to exploit others in our place, we must fight for them. In many countries when they try to fight for themselves, they fired, blacklisted, or even worse - killed. The World is Global and for us to act as if the US is the only nation on the planet worth caring about is to be ignorant, foolish and self destructive.

The president and the government is working on constructing what will be called the North American Union (NAU) which is to be designed much like the European Union. This is designed solely for the profit of business - certainly not for workers. Mr. Dobbs would be against this solely on the fact that we would essentially have open borders and that there would be a formal geo-political power and political structure that was made of the US, Mexico, and Canada. This would greatly diffuse and offend nationalists - something that Mr. Dobbs certianly is. (on this note I would ask nationalists to look at the nationalists in a global historical perspective - There are some pretty scary people ion that collection). The problem with the NAU is not the idea, but the structure. It will be designed to profit big business, not workers. Our wages will continue to go down. Mr. Dobbs will blame it on mexicans, when in actuality, it is the big business that designed the whole structure. By using the desparation that central and south american workers are in they will accomplish three goals.

1. Make a massive profit off of hiring cheaper workers.
2. Incite nationalist reistance and violence to and forigener - which leads to..
3. Working class people never being able to collectivly fight against the evil big business corporations that Mr. Dobbs hates so much.

In this sense. Most if not all of Mr. Dobbs interpretations are analytically short. That is to say that he does not analyze the reality enough. He takes it for the face value without digging deeper, much like he did with the name of NCLR.

It is this apparent short analytical side and massive nationalist trend that threatens working people here in this country. Mr. Dobbs and his blindingly white teeth will smile us into oblivion if we don't start to analyze reality at a greater depth instead of taking the word of people we see on TV. After all, TV is about profit - Lou Dobbs says what he says to make money in the end. Who knows if he really means it. If what he was saying was really going to be beneficial to us, why would a large massive corporation like AOL/Time Warner run his show or allow him to use his studio? Ask yourself the question, If Mr. Dobbs is against big, evil corporations, why is he ok working for one? That doesn't make sense. The reality is that he is feeding us something we all simply want to hear so that we can push the blame of the situation off onto someone else instead of analyzing the depth of the situation. As long as we are mad that there might by millions of drug cartel terrorists in out country who might rape our kids, give out free heroin, steal from our grandparents, or some other seriously offensive and shocking crime, we will never see the elephant in the room. That elephant is big business. Business and economics run the government, there is no independence from that. Working people who don't own/run business or business organizations have little control. Mr. Dobbs will keep us blind while the elephant stomps on our head. Seriously folks. Stop treating him like a saint. Open your eyes. See the elephant.

Mr. Dobbs promotes racist though, seperatist ideology, and nationalistic fervor that is dangerous to working american people. Most nationalist trends coexist with obvious or underlying racist trends. This phenomenon has happened before in the US post WWI. The Repatriation of the 1930s - a violation of human rights - followed the growth of a similar movement that Mr. Dobbs promotes in the modern age. Keep that in mind.

If there are no jobs in your town do you go a town over to look for jobs?

We aren't talking about towns, we are talking about sovereign nations. Which apparently you would like to see abolished.
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