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Old 07-17-2008, 07:05 AM
 
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To whom it may concern:

Legal immigration is acceptable

Illegel immigration despite blacknight04 et all's claims to the contrary is not acceptable.
When did i say illegal immigration is acceptable? You can surely find a quote of me saying so right?
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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When did i say illegal immigration is acceptable? You can surely find a quote of me saying so right?
You yourself lumped both legal and illegal immigration together as 'immigration' despite being called out on it several times.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:20 AM
 
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You yourself lumped both legal and illegal immigration together as 'immigration' despite being called out on it several times.

I guess you can't find a quote from me then.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I guess you can't find a quote from me then.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/immig...-across-2.html

Scroll down to Post #14
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:02 AM
 
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Your point is? The fact is those who claim to be only "anti-illegal" are also opposed to various forms of legal immigration, which makes them anti-immigrant.
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Your point is? The fact is those who claim to be only "anti-illegal" are also opposed to various forms of legal immigration, which makes them anti-immigrant.
I am anti illegal immigration as well------and, very much so.

Face it: you pro amnesty types are losing the battle-----and, the war for public opinion.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:11 AM
 
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Your point is? The fact is those who claim to be only "anti-illegal" are also opposed to various forms of legal immigration, which makes them anti-immigrant.
It does not. There are many of us that would like to see immigration, legal, paired down to acceptable limits so that new immigrants could and would get assimilated, as it was before the 1965 limits that the idiot Kennedy pushed through. I want and welcome legal immigrants who wish to be American and accept our country, not the ones who wish to change our country to what they came from in the first place. As I have said dozens of times, diversity is good in our country. Multiculturism is bad and will kill this country, as it is doing right before our very eyes.

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Old 07-17-2008, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Your point is? The fact is those who claim to be only "anti-illegal" are also opposed to various forms of legal immigration, which makes them anti-immigrant.
Absolute UNadulterated BS and SPIN, Blacknight!

Illegals are common criminals who have blatantly disrespected our immigration laws as well as our Border Patrol Authorities so "Illegal Lovers" are "aiding and abetting" common criminals.

To compare LEGAL immigrants to ILLEGAL COMMON CRIMINALS is ludicrous and only done by the Illegal Lovers when LOGIC and COMMON SENSE has failed!
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:03 PM
 
Location: California
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You yourself lumped both legal and illegal immigration together as 'immigration' despite being called out on it several times.
I really don't know why you guys dwell on that phrasing.
Illegal immigrants are immigrants. Thats why the word "immigrants" is in the phrase.

They are immigrants who have come with out taking the proper steps and getting their documents in order.

Thats the difference. Aside from that, they are the same thing. People from another country coming to this country for work and a better quality of life.

It doesn't matter what your opinion on the subject is, that is what it is.
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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I really don't know why you guys dwell on that phrasing.
Illegal immigrants are immigrants. Thats why the word "immigrants" is in the phrase.

They are immigrants who have come with out taking the proper steps and getting their documents in order.

Thats the difference. Aside from that, they are the same thing. People from another country coming to this country for work and a better quality of life.

It doesn't matter what your opinion on the subject is, that is what it is.

No-they are not "immigrants"-they are illegal aliens and lawbreakers. While some people may call them immigrants-they are not. OBL types may call them immigrants to try and give them the respect and validity that should be reserved for legal immigrants only. It is called muddying the waters. You state the only difference is taking the "proper steps" as if that difference is not a big deal. It is a very big deal and exactly the reason illegal aliens should never be called immigrants. Just another play out of the OBL playbook. If I were a legal immigrant, I would be pretty damn po'ed if I were getting lumped in with illegal aliens who broke the rules to get here. I am an American citizen and I think that it is disgusting lumping people who follow the rules-aka legal immigrants with lawbreakers who think they have a "right" to come here any way that they please.
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