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Old 07-18-2008, 11:58 AM
 
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So breaking Federal laws to you is not a crime. Where then do you draw the line? Is robbing a bank "to feed your family" also not a crime? Is identity theft "to put food on the table" not a crime? Are you in the same category as the pro-illegal poster who answered same that he would break any U.S. law extant for his family with the possible exception of murder?

I question the morality of someone who puts the rights of U.S. citizens, both born and naturalized, WAY behind those of law-breakers, and doesn't rejoice in our country as a sovereign state with its own laws. I live amongst illegals, and can vouch for the verity that they continually break law after law after law, since they got away with a biggie. They come to where I live, L.A., to work the system not to work. Perhaps if half of your paycheck was depleted to pay for services to criminals (services which citizens never get) you might begin to understand. I have never met nastier people than the illegals in Los Angeles. They are self-centered and heedless of the rights of anyone outside of those from their "home country."
I live in Southern Arizona, you don't think they are here? I have not seen any of the behaver here that you say you see. Why have you not turned them in if they are causing you grief?
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:04 PM
 
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I live in Southern Arizona, you don't think they are here? I have not seen any of the behaver here that you say you see. Why have you not turned them in if they are causing you grief?
A lot of us do exactly that. Don't worry your little head over that fact. What is a better question is why is it that you love criminals so much?
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:06 PM
 
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gosharooney gee whiz, sassyone, we have that pesky Special Order 40 in our so-called sanctuary city of Los Angeles wherein no immigration status on suspected perpetrators ever can be conveyed to ICE!

And God's Honest truth, what I've written I've experienced personally. Illegals have shot through the fence at my nice dogs, vandalize my neighborhood, break building code laws, incubate gangs, graffiti everything, drive without licenses (3 totalled car wrecks in the last 7 years by them in my life, yes, the police confirmed they were illegals) blare window-rattling stadium-worthy p.a. systems 24/7, and so on ad infinitum. Your lack of experience with them, I'm guessing, stems from lesser percentages than L.A. (wherein 300 illegals enter daily) and perhaps your living in more upscale digs than middle/working class people like me in L.A.

So where do you draw the line on criminal behavior?
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:08 PM
 
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The American Dream is to be able to get a good job, buy a home and have your family be able to 'quietly enjoy' the rewards of your work. When the illegals move into your neighborhood, that is destroyed.
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:11 PM
 
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I live in Southern Arizona, you don't think they are here? I have not seen any of the behaver here that you say you see. Why have you not turned them in if they are causing you grief?
Truly, if you lived in southern AZ and haven't seen the influx of illegals that had happened over the last decade then you must be blind.
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:14 PM
 
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The American Dream is to be able to get a good job, buy a home and have your family be able to 'quietly enjoy' the rewards of your work. When the illegals move into your neighborhood, that is destroyed.
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:30 PM
 
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A lot of us do exactly that. Don't worry your little head over that fact. Whoveis a better question is why is it that you love criminals so much?
Where did I ever post that I love criminals. I don't consider them criminals for trying to find a better life for their families. If they do crimes other than coming into the US illegally then I think they should be punished, law enforcement, not a group that likes to play cops and Robbers.
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:35 PM
 
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Truly, if you lived in southern AZ and haven't seen the influx of illegals that had happened over the last decade then you must be blind.
You need to read my posts, I live in Southern Arizona and have seen many of them, anyone that lives close to the border see's them. The difference being the way we see them, we don't hate them for being here.
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:39 PM
 
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So breaking Federal laws to you is not a crime. Where then do you draw the line? Is robbing a bank "to feed your family" also not a crime? Is identity theft "to put food on the table" not a crime? Are you in the same category as the pro-illegal poster who answered same that he would break any U.S. law extant for his family with the possible exception of murder?

I question the morality of someone who puts the rights of U.S. citizens, both born and naturalized, WAY behind those of law-breakers, and doesn't rejoice in our country as a sovereign state with its own laws. I live amongst illegals, and can vouch for the verity that they continually break law after law after law, since they got away with a biggie. They come to where I live, L.A., to work the system not to work. Perhaps if half of your paycheck was depleted to pay for services to illegals with their entrenched criminal mindset (services which citizens never get) you might begin to understand. I have never met nastier people than the illegals in Los Angeles. They are self-centered and heedless of the rights of anyone outside of those from their "home country."
Well according to the federal law, being in the country or violating immigration law is not a felony like robbing a bank would be. If you have a problem with that then take it up with the gov't.

Btw, if the illegal immigrants you are living with are soo dangerous as you say then why don't you leave your neighborhood?By you staying there indicates that you actually enjoy their company.
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:40 PM
 
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The American Dream is to be able to get a good job, buy a home and have your family be able to 'quietly enjoy' the rewards of your work. When the illegals move into your neighborhood, that is destroyed.
That's the American Dream?? Well that's not too much to ask for.
With the economy the way it is, I guess not too many are living the dream,huh?
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