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Old 09-07-2009, 10:56 PM
 
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You forgot the Great Depression. Also, you failed to mention that during the 2000s and the 1990s the stellar economy was marked by high levels of immigration.

The US won't collapse by the burden of unskilled labor. If anything it will collapse due to over consumption.

Wondering, how do you reconcile the fact that illegal immigrants do indeed rise well demographically over the generations? Is this simply a fluke? Do you think that this has any bearing to the conversation?
There is simply nothing that you can say that is going to magically transform millions of illegal immigrants who did not graduate from HS and have no discernible job skills into desirable immigrants.
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Old 09-07-2009, 11:29 PM
 
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There is simply nothing that you can say that is going to magically transform millions of illegal immigrants who did not graduate from HS and have no discernible job skills into desirable immigrants.
People without an education can do a LOT of things, and they don't need to know English to do them. For example, they can work in our steel mills as laborers....become coal miners.....work on railroad construction gangs....or cut down our vast groves of timber in the Pacific Northwest. They can herd cattle, grow cotton, dig irrigation canals, or open up new lands on the Great Plains. They can also learn to be blacksmiths and wagon drivers and bartenders.

Why would you say a lack of education makes an immigrant 'less than desirable ?' Aren't our own high-school dropouts desirable? Surely a lack of education won't stop a determined person....and you've got to admit, we DO have a history of immigration...right?
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:13 AM
 
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People without an education can do a LOT of things, and they don't need to know English to do them. For example, they can work in our steel mills as laborers....become coal miners.....work on railroad construction gangs....or cut down our vast groves of timber in the Pacific Northwest. They can herd cattle, grow cotton, dig irrigation canals, or open up new lands on the Great Plains. They can also learn to be blacksmiths and wagon drivers and bartenders.

Why would you say a lack of education makes an immigrant 'less than desirable ?' Aren't our own high-school dropouts desirable? Surely a lack of education won't stop a determined person....and you've got to admit, we DO have a history of immigration...right?
Anything to add to the conversation really?
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