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Old 09-06-2009, 08:23 AM
 
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Yeah, always easier to wait until it is handed to you instead of doing it on your own, showing us all that you could care less about American laws or Americans as a whole.
Yet, ANOTHER ignorant comment. This ignorance seems to be an reoccurring them throughout this thread...

The American Laws are in charge, not the immigrants, not the students, not the activists, not your mother, not your grandfather, but they American Government. Until the American Government says "okay we will allow people from the following countries to apply for permanent residency" they CAN NOT do anything about it. WHY? Because 1-they are not the government, and 2-they can not vote for the government. And 2 is also directed to the other ignorant comment that says illegal immigrants are allowed to vote. Please, please, please, do some research before making us look even stupider. The kid that was posting against you guys probably left saying "what a bunch of stupid people" and we're only proving him right. Do some research guys and make valid arguments that are factually correct...
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:28 AM
 
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Bottom line: we owe illegal aliens nothing more than 3 hots and a cot prior to their deportation-------------especially with our growing unemployment rate and increasing drug war crap starting to spill across our southern border.

I do not care if they are Spanish speaking Mestizos or Nordic White Swedes-----------all illegal aliens age 18 up are criminals.

Remember I have no issue with legal immigration..........those folks (Mexican or not) I welcome to my country.
No one said you did, buddy. And if they're winning jobs from us is because we're going into a lazy bunch that needs to look at our problems before we decide we can beat them. I personally don't fear for my job because i know that i can do it better than any of them could....if you fear losing your jobs then perhaps you ought to work harder. It's the way of capitalism.

You came across as having no problem racial problems yet you brought out the word "Mexican" meaning, after psycho analysis of it lol, that you indeed do have some racial bias running through your veins. I would get that checked out...
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:30 AM
 
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Bottom line: we owe illegal aliens nothing more than 3 hots and a cot prior to their deportation-------------especially with our growing unemployment rate and increasing drug war crap starting to spill across our southern border.

I do not care if they are Spanish speaking Mestizos or Nordic White Swedes-----------all illegal aliens age 18 up are criminals.

Remember I have no issue with legal immigration..........those folks (Mexican or not) I welcome to my country.
and by the way you're comment was quite irrelevant lol
that MIT grads worth as human capital states otherwise as to him not being worth more than "3 hots and a cot". One day, this will all come bite us back in the ass...lets hope to God that He does not allow the US to ever be the ones begging for something from all those that we are kicking out. Remember, every empire falls...it's the rule of history.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Yet, ANOTHER ignorant comment. This ignorance seems to be an reoccurring them throughout this thread...

The American Laws are in charge, not the immigrants, not the students, not the activists, not your mother, not your grandfather, but they American Government. Until the American Government says "okay we will allow people from the following countries to apply for permanent residency" they CAN NOT do anything about it. WHY? Because 1-they are not the government, and 2-they can not vote for the government. And 2 is also directed to the other ignorant comment that says illegal immigrants are allowed to vote. Please, please, please, do some research before making us look even stupider. The kid that was posting against you guys probably left saying "what a bunch of stupid people" and we're only proving him right. Do some research guys and make valid arguments that are factually correct...
Voter fraud never happens? Acorn didn't register anyone and everyone some times multiple times? Now who is being dense? Voter fraud, ID theft, Theft of services are reality and guess what? Illegals do all the above and more.
Illegals can vote when they use a false or stolen ID. Most polls do not require a photo ID combine this with the efforts of ACORN and voter fraud is reality.
You do some research before you post claims that illegals do not vote. Just like no illegals are allowed a drivers licence right? Or collect welfare. let me guess all illegals pay their fair share in taxes too.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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and by the way you're comment was quite irrelevant lol
that MIT grads worth as human capital states otherwise as to him not being worth more than "3 hots and a cot". One day, this will all come bite us back in the ass...lets hope to God that He does not allow the US to ever be the ones begging for something from all those that we are kicking out. Remember, every empire falls...it's the rule of history.
It will not be Mexico bringing us down-----------of anything; it would behoove that country to mandate English in its schools since the odds higher than 50/50 that at least the northern tier of Mx states will devolve to the USA. Think about it: Mexico is fast collapsing due to its drug wars and the odds are growing that our military may wind up finishing off what was started ca. 1848.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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Voter fraud never happens? Acorn didn't register anyone and everyone some times multiple times? Now who is being dense? Voter fraud, ID theft, Theft of services are reality and guess what? Illegals do all the above and more.
Illegals can vote when they use a false or stolen ID. Most polls do not require a photo ID combine this with the efforts of ACORN and voter fraud is reality.
You do some research before you post claims that illegals do not vote. Just like no illegals are allowed a drivers licence right? Or collect welfare. let me guess all illegals pay their fair share in taxes too.
Actually, if you read any of the previous posts without first getting angry at your keyboard.... yes they do pay income and sales taxes. NOT ALL of them pay income taxes, but they all pay sales taxes and most of them pay SS by the way.

1-ACORN is a 3rd party community based program...do some research. It is our fault for allowing such programs to exist. Even so, such a programs renders useless when calculating its effects in the grand scheme of things.

2- Most SIGNIFICANT electoral fraud occurs through gerrymandering, not allowing certain groups to vote, and disenfranchisement. But....these problems are slowly disappearing.

3- Yes some states (probably around 2 or 3) allow illegal immigrants to have drivers licenSes (it's with an S, not a C) but it's a very few number that are able to get them...and even so i guess it's repayment for the taxes they pay for.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:46 AM
 
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It will not be Mexico bringing us down-----------of anything; it would behoove that country to mandate English in its schools since the odds higher than 50/50 that at least the northern tier of Mx states will devolve to the USA. Think about it: Mexico is fast collapsing due to its drug wars and the odds are growing that our military may wind up finishing off what was started ca. 1848.
Actually, i think the drug wars is doing that country some good. It's purging the country of their main problem. Also, before WWI the US was nothing...and within a year it was a world super power (remember the US was not involved in all of WWI)....so a lot can happen in a short period of time.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Actually, if you read any of the previous posts without first getting angry at your keyboard.... yes they do pay income and sales taxes. NOT ALL of them pay income taxes, but they all pay sales taxes and most of them pay SS by the way.

1-ACORN is a 3rd party community based program...do some research. It is our fault for allowing such programs to exist. Even so, such a programs renders useless when calculating its effects in the grand scheme of things.

2- Most SIGNIFICANT electoral fraud occurs through gerrymandering, not allowing certain groups to vote, and disenfranchisement. But....these problems are slowly disappearing.

3- Yes some states (probably around 2 or 3) allow illegal immigrants to have drivers licenSes (it's with an S, not a C) but it's a very few number that are able to get them...and even so i guess it's repayment for the taxes they pay for.
Repayment for aiding/abetting criminal behavior? If anything the illegals need to be rounded up and have their assets seized by the Feds prior to their deportation and banishment from the USA for 10 years.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:50 AM
 
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Actually, i think the drug wars is doing that country some good. It's purging the country of their main problem. Also, before WWI the US was nothing...and within a year it was a world super power (remember the US was not involved in all of WWI)....so a lot can happen in a short period of time.
edit: I don't think they'll bring us down...especially if we keep their best students here....but if we continue kicking out great minds every day they might come back and bite us in the ass....i prefer having them leave here and work here than them leaving and hating us...especially if they have potential to do great things.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:54 AM
 
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Repayment for aiding/abetting criminal behavior? If anything the illegals need to be rounded up and have their assets seized by the Feds prior to their deportation and banishment from the USA for 10 years.
if you think paying taxes is a crime...then okay.
and if you're talking about them being here illegally...i think that the only people that have a right to claim such a thing are Native Americans... but then we too would be illegal.
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