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View Poll Results: Would Making Illegal's Legal Ruin Mexican Work Ethics?
Yes, they would become lazy like the current American Citizens. 12 70.59%
No, they would continue to work cheap and work hard. 5 29.41%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-23-2008, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Naperville, IL
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How are Americans lazy? Most European countries have less than a 40hr work week.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Well I put both as a majority. The majority of Illegal workers are not lazy, they are in a constant state of fear. Americans are not lazy when we need them most, such as 9/11, Katrina, etc....
That I agree with.

Best anaology would be to the slave labor that the Nazi's, etc. used during WW II---------big difference is the illegals here at least get paid something and can leave anytime they want.

General Tojo of Imperial Japan made that exact same mistake thinking that us Americans were basicaly lazy losers--------till we all but destroyed that nation duirng WW II.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:58 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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European immigrants. But it's not like the old days, 35% of the population are not first generation European immigrants.
Do you mind if I ask how old you are? It might help put your responses into perspective.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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European immigrants. But it's not like the old days, 35% of the population are not first generation European immigrants.
You must mean 200 years ago or better.

Even in 1920 when we slowed down the stream of immigrants (from everywhere)-------our population was maybe 20% foreign born, tops.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Naperville, IL
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Do you mind if I ask how old you are? It might help put your responses into perspective.
I'm 23.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Naperville, IL
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You must mean 200 years ago or better.

Even in 1920 when we slowed down the stream of immigrants (from everywhere)-------our population was maybe 20% foreign born, tops.
...and were what now... maybe 10% foreign born other than the Mexicans?
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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...and were what now... maybe 10% foreign born other than the Mexicans?
Factoing in those folks born in Mexico who are either US citizens or green card holders.......I am guessing 10% as you stated
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Then you can speak for yourself. I'm American and I have a strong work ethic. My work doesn't end at the office either, I am working for pretty much all my waking hours.
Thank you! Legal U.S. citizens do not have a monopoly on laziness; nor do the majority of illegals have exemplary work ethics. The only people who ‘may’ only work 8 hours and leave their jobs at work, are non-exempt employees. Most exempt employees work well over 8 hours, and do indeed take work home on a regular basis. Some are even on-call, and wouldn’t dare be separated from their BlackBerry or cell phone.

Compared to other countries, U.S. workers take less time off from work for R&R, and work longer hours. I’m not sure what your premise is, but at 23 you haven’t been in the workforce long enough to become an arbiter of the work habits of MOST U.S. citizens.

If illegals were granted citizenship, they would no longer be exploitable, and would be protected by labor laws. More importantly, they would no longer be an attractive labor pool for the greedy unscrupulous employers, who are amassing great fortunes from dirt cheap illegal labor. Therefore, the new “citizens” would find themselves in the same predicament as other low-skilled U.S. citizens……in a canoe in treacherous waters -- without a paddle, life jacket, or communication device. In other words, SOL.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Naperville, IL
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I've been working for 9 years. So I do have somewhat of an understanding in the 21's century. I worked a lot from the ages 10-15 also, but for relatives illegally tax free (received cash). I was also a small business owner from the ages of 19-21, but got out of it due to stress.
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Old 07-23-2008, 12:43 PM
 
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You're speaking about a time before American's were lazy. Come to Illinois and see how clean the Mexicans clean the buildings compared to the Polish immigrants. Also how would a illegal immigrant survive here if they were lazy? They can't get a legitimate job.

I don't have to come to Illinois I work in an office building in downtown Chicago.

As for how they survive, in light of the fact that Chicago is an IA sanctuary, they have plenty of opportunities handed to them on a silver platter. Unfortunately, judging from the rising IA gang statistics, the majority of them prefer making their money selling narcotics.
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