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Old 07-25-2008, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Must be another proud graduate of the LAUSD.
I have no idea what LAUSD is? As far as I know this country is called United States of America. Thus only a part of America.
Since you attacked me instead of my ideas you are the newest member of my ignore list.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I have no idea what LAUSD is? As far as I know this country is called United States of America. Thus only a part of America.
Since you attacked me instead of my ideas you are the newest member of my ignore list.
It's the Los Angeles Unified School District.

There are 2 CONTINENTS in the Western Hemisphere, North and South America. The United States of America (traditionally referred to as 'America') lies on the North American continent, while Argentina lies on the South American continent. Consequently, your statement of "America goes from Canada all the way to Argentina." is patently false.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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It's the Los Angeles Unified School District.

There are 2 CONTINENTS in the Western Hemisphere, North and South America. The United States of America (traditionally referred to as 'America') lies on the North American continent, while Argentina lies on the South American continent. Consequently, your statement of "America goes from Canada all the way to Argentina." is patently false.
That is the way it is taught in the US. I went to school in Europe where we count all of America as one continent that is subdivided in 3 subcontinents, North, Central and South America. It is one of those things like a billion in Europe is the same as a trillion in the US.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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That is the way it is taught in the US. I went to school in Europe where we count all of America as one continent that is subdivided in 3 subcontinents, North, Central and South America. It is one of those things like a billion in Europe is the same as a trillion in the US.
Central America is a sub-continent?? Like India?? That's FUNNY...
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:31 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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"You CLEARLY fail to realize that MOST illegal immigrants cannot afford cars"

OK right there I know you haven't been around illegal aliens - or had your driveway blocked.
So because you had your driveway blocked, it must be because of illegal immigrants? How do you know that they're illegal? These generalizations keep getting more and more ridiculous.

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The birthrate is high (70% of births at our taxpayer-funded public hospital are to illegals) but not that high.
You were able to cite ONE inner-city Dallas hospital. You try to convince people that 70% of births at ALL publicly funded hospitals are from illegal immigrant. You're getting caught in your own ignorance.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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So because you had your driveway blocked, it must be because of illegal immigrants? How do you know that they're illegal? These generalizations keep getting more and more ridiculous.

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The birthrate is high (70% of births at our taxpayer-funded public hospital are to illegals) but not that high.
You were able to cite ONE inner-city Dallas hospital. You try to convince people that 70% of births at ALL publicly funded hospitals are from illegal immigrant. You're getting caught in your own ignorance.
Notice the bolded words in Lakewooder's quote. He spoke ONLY of ONE hospital, his, not all hospitals. This can be determined by the word 'our' and the lack of an 's' on 'hospital'.

You're so busy looking for something to attack that you're not comprehending what's been written.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:49 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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I am not playing your game.

This I will say: if this nation 'needs' illegal immigrants to survive let alone prosper----------we do not deserve to exist.

Better yet:

How about building a fortified wall across our southern border: the former Iron Curtain in Europe did its intended job-------------difference was that the Communists wanted to keep their people in, not out.
My game? This is no game. YOU seem to think this is a game seeing as you believe we can effectively uproot and deport 15 million people.

I'm sorry if you have not come to the realization that in SOME places illegal immigrants are the backbone of the low-wage economy. I feel I deserve to exist with or without illegal immigrants. I would think that you, as another Arizonan, would recognize that as many as 1/6 Arizonans is an illegal immigrant. Those people are employed somewhere. The last I heard, those people were not working high-paying, white collar jobs. So, if we deport everyone who is illegal in Arizona tomorrow, do you think that would have an positive effect on our economy? I would hope not. You need to realize every 5 illegal immigrants we deport, 20 more will come.

Building a wall will not work. A continuous 200 foot wall from Brownsville/Matamoros to San Diego/Tijuana and from Lubec, ME to the Strait of Juan de Fuca in Washington State would cost trillions of dollars to not only build, but maintain. People would still find ways to get through border checkpoints, will take more drastic measures, such as digging tunnels, or using boats to go around the wall in the Gulf of Mexico or Pacific Ocean. I, most certainly, am not going to pay taxes for some unnecessary fences.

Trying to get deport illegal immigrants is about as much of a pipe dream as trying to rid the globe of terrorists.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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My game? This is no game. YOU seem to think this is a game seeing as you believe we can effectively uproot and deport 15 million people.

I'm sorry if you have not come to the realization that in SOME places illegal immigrants are the backbone of the low-wage economy. I feel I deserve to exist with or without illegal immigrants. I would think that you, as another Arizonan, would recognize that as many as 1/6 Arizonans is an illegal immigrant. Those people are employed somewhere. The last I heard, those people were not working high-paying, white collar jobs. So, if we deport everyone who is illegal in Arizona tomorrow, do you think that would have an positive effect on our economy? I would hope not. You need to realize every 5 illegal immigrants we deport, 20 more will come.

Building a wall will not work. A continuous 200 foot wall from Brownsville/Matamoros to San Diego/Tijuana and from Lubec, ME to the Strait of Juan de Fuca in Washington State would cost trillions of dollars to not only build, but maintain. People would still find ways to get through border checkpoints, will take more drastic measures, such as digging tunnels, or using boats to go around the wall in the Gulf of Mexico or Pacific Ocean. I, most certainly, am not going to pay taxes for some unnecessary fences.

Trying to get deport illegal immigrants is about as much of a pipe dream as trying to rid the globe of terrorists.
Your point being?

It is over for the illegal immigrant party-------the crashing economy will see to that.

As for that '15 million' number of illegals---------I find that hard to believe unless you are counting their US born Anchor Babies as well.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:55 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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Notice the bolded words in Lakewooder's quote. He spoke ONLY of ONE hospital, his, not all hospitals. This can be determined by the word 'our' and the lack of an 's' on 'hospital'.

You're so busy looking for something to attack that you're not comprehending what's been written.
I am not looking for something to attack, no looking is needed.

I also asked for a reputable source. Snopes.com saying that a "recent survey" revealed something does not mean anything. Do they ask expectant mothers if they're citizens? Doubtful.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:58 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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Your point being?

It is over for the illegal immigrant party-------the crashing economy will see to that.
My point being that you are on the losing battle of this struggle.

Luckily our politicians are smart enough to see that 15 million people cannot be deported. Whether Obama or McCain gets elected, there will not be mass deportation anytime soon. There will not be a fence constructed anytime soon.

If it was over for the illegal immigrant party, record amounts of illegal immigrants would not be traveling through the Arizona desert now.
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