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Old 07-25-2008, 07:59 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear View Post
Because illegal immigrants are arrogant lawbreakers-------especially factoring in crimes like ID theft with are Felonies.

Moreover: the USA is a sovereign nation yet that cabal of losers in government/big business are de facto traitors selling out regular working class Americans.

So a bunch of 'yuppies' will have to pay market wages for the hired help-------tough.

Next question?
Yes - imagine how terrible it will be for them when they have to legal wages to their servants? Or their servants don't show up and their beds go unmade.
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Pa
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It's really simple, you do it 1 bus load at a time.

What's the old saying --- How do you eat an elephant ? One bite at a time.

Hey, I'd be satisfied with 1 bus load at a time.
Right you are. 1 bus load at a time. It took years for them to accumulate it will take years to reverse it. No time like the here and now to start.
Someone asked why we are so anti-illegal.
Because they cheat our system thumb their noses at our laws and then demand special treatment. They have caused many many legal citizens to loose their jobs or at the very least change professions. No apologies just accept it we deserve your jobs more than you do.
They come here no immunizations, they bring the threat of disease. They force themselves upon us. Whats not to be upset about?
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:19 AM
 
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That is a favorite tactic here by the (losing) pro illegal side.
Mix-mashing illegal alien and immigrant is propaganda, spewed and believed. That basic premise is a distortion of truth (fabrication, lie, etc.) to begin with, and it's why there never is a discussion.

Ultimately, in their acquience, the politically correct endorse the worst case scenario to deal with this, using Halliburton's special purpose detention centers, which also refutes the propaganda of impotence regarding the quantity of illegal aliens. It can be dealt with.

Tryanny eats its own, and in this history, I will have a clear conscious, albeit, we are like wolves trying to warn the sheep about the shepherd -- they're not listening.

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Old 07-25-2008, 11:11 AM
 
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I I made a point of saying that most illegal immigrants who are here are hard-working, honest people.... You likely presume that because they converse in another language and have 10-20 in a house that they must be illegal.... I fail to see what you feel is the differentiating factor between those types of Americans and illegal immigrants that gives you the power to presume that certain people around you are illegal.
How honest is it to sneak into another country illegally? How honest is it to make up or 'use' someone else's Social Security number? How honest is it to take free breakfasts, lunches and medical paid for by the American taxpayers? How honest is it to pollute the atmosphere by getting a fraudulent inspection/emmissions sticker? How honest is it to get a fake car insurance ID and make others pay higher costs? How honest is it to violate zoning and occupancy laws and to make neighbors miserable?"

You fail to see the differentiating factors because you have not seen the massive changes in a short time that others here explain. 40,000 new Spanish-speaking students in my district in the last few years? The birthrate is high (70% of births at our taxpayer-funded public hospital are to illegals) but not that high.

Would you like for your kid to be swept aside as the school struggles with the tide?
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:01 PM
 
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How honest is it to sneak into another country illegally? How honest is it to make up or 'use' someone else's Social Security number? How honest is it to take free breakfasts, lunches and medical paid for by the American taxpayers? How honest is it to pollute the atmosphere by getting a fraudulent inspection/emmissions sticker? How honest is it to get a fake car insurance ID and make others pay higher costs? How honest is it to violate zoning and occupancy laws and to make neighbors miserable?"

You fail to see the differentiating factors because you have not seen the massive changes in a short time that others here explain. 40,000 new Spanish-speaking students in my district in the last few years? The birthrate is high (70% of births at our taxpayer-funded public hospital are to illegals) but not that high.

Would you like for your kid to be swept aside as the school struggles with the tide?
Lakewooder you do realize that not all illegals have fake SS#,s get fraudulent stickers, have fake car insurance, live 20 in a house.. those are basically generalizations.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Lakewooder you do realize that not all illegals have fake SS#,s get fraudulent stickers, have fake car insurance, live 20 in a house.. those are basically generalizations.
How do those who do not do any of the above survive let alone prosper enough to send money back home?
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Lakewooder you do realize that not all illegals have fake SS#,s get fraudulent stickers, have fake car insurance, live 20 in a house.. those are basically generalizations.
They might be 'generalizations', but they are true to an ever-increasing degree as more single young men from SOB continue to pour across the line. The evidence of this cannot really escape you, unless you're determined NOT to look. Until you're willing to deal with REALITY you won't be much help in solving the problem.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:06 PM
 
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True, the ones who don't have fake or stolen SS#s are paid in cash and do not report it to the IRS.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:07 PM
 
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How do those who do not do any of the above survive let alone prosper enough to send money back home?

I've read many documentaries on how how much money they send back. I've seen the Penn & Teller BS episode in which they hired illegal immigrants to build a wall and go through it. They interviewed each one and they said that they only send money when they can. One of them lived under a stare well in an apartment complex. They send what they can.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:11 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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It's really simple, you do it 1 bus load at a time.

What's the old saying --- How do you eat an elephant ? One bite at a time.

Hey, I'd be satisfied with 1 bus load at a time.
Ok. So you're presuming that if we load up one bus and deport people back to Mexico that people will stop crossing the border? Are you one of those people who supports putting up a 200-foot fence from Brownsville/Matamoras to San Diego/Tijuana? Beside the fact that will NEVER happen, people would still find a way get around it.

In the time it would take you to deport 15 million by bus, let's say each bus can hold 50 people. You realize that would be the equivalent of having to fill up 300,000 buses?
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