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Old 07-26-2008, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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agreed, once apon a time i was on the fence [sort of] on the issue, but between the marches, the signs, the crimes and the attitudes, MY attitude changed in a big way.
Line for line: my attitude has hardened as well against those lawbreakers.
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Agreed. It's would merely be another con job anyway. These people showed their true colors when they marched down American streets waiving the Mexican rag, chanting in spanish and using their anchors to carry threatening signs.

In doing so they have conjured up feelings that I haven't felt in a very long time.

And that spit? Is non-retractable.
Let me guess:

Today's pro illegal immigrant protesters are the children/grandchildren of Sheriff Bull Connor and the old White Citizen's League of the Jim Crow days?

And; this ol' 'White boy' (myself) in a way feels like what a 1950's Negro went through.
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:03 PM
 
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Let me guess:

Today's pro illegal immigrant protesters are the children/grandchildren of Sheriff Bull Connor and the old White Citizen's League of the Jim Crow days?

And; this ol' 'White boy' (myself) in a way feels like what a 1950's Negro went through.
Exxxxxxxaaaaaacctly. However, I have a feeling that with every illegal alien crime that we read about, the racial divisions between Americans will fall dramatically. One of the few positives with regards to this illegal alien invasion is the fact that the majority of us on both sides of the racial divide have a great love of America and that is the tie that binds. It crosses all the boundaries.

Funny Story: I usually catch the Metra to go to work (downtown Chicago). On the day of the marches in 2006 I had to drive down because my son was catching an Amtrak into Union station from school. Illegals were bused in from all over the US and there were thousands of them marching chanting and demanding crap in spanish while being proteced by the CPD. I was in the lane next to a group of white tatooed bikers and we were all P.O.'d.

Normally, I would have never spoken to a group of white tatooed bikers let alone joked with them. We all began taunting the traffic cops and screaming at the marchers to get out of our country. Eventually we all struck up a hilarious conversation about the invasion and actually bonded during the 1 hour we were stuck in traffic.

WE SHALL OVER COME!!!!!

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Old 07-27-2008, 12:49 AM
 
Location: California
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Let me guess:

Today's pro illegal immigrant protesters are the children/grandchildren of Sheriff Bull Connor and the old White Citizen's League of the Jim Crow days?

And; this ol' 'White boy' (myself) in a way feels like what a 1950's Negro went through.
WHAT????? hahah, oh man. That tops it all.
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Old 07-27-2008, 01:14 AM
 
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What if they showed gratitude and thanked us for everything we give them - schooling for their kids including ESL, healthcare, food stamps, welfare, WIC, etc?
Just have an issue with this statement. Illegal immigrants have since 1996 been ineligible to receive those benefits you state, especially welfare and foodstamps.

The only thing they are able to receive is K-12 education and emergency medical care.

And remember that most do indeed sales taxes and personal income taxes. It is a myth that illegal immigrants do not contribute tax revenue. What amount is a different argument.
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Old 07-27-2008, 01:19 AM
 
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The drugs are pouring via the border its a tsunami of drug import . Drug money equals gangs-destruction of neighborhoods and ofcourse destroyed people,families.

This I have issue with as well. The United States is the world's largest market for illicit drugs. The root of the problem is insatiable American demand, not the supply. Of course attacking the real driver of the problem is not politically expedient.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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Just have an issue with this statement. Illegal immigrants have since 1996 been ineligible to receive those benefits you state, especially welfare and foodstamps.

The only thing they are able to receive is K-12 education and emergency medical care.

And remember that most do indeed sales taxes and personal income taxes. It is a myth that illegal immigrants do not contribute tax revenue. What amount is a different argument.

You seem to have issues with many things posted in this forum. Well, many illegals do receive the benefits that you say they are not allowed to. It really doesn't seem to matter what the law states at all when it comes to illegals. Many do contribute but not near their fair share when it comes to taxes. Why do you care so much for law breakers anyway?
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:32 AM
 
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In Texas alone, the illegals cost us 5 billion annually. In California, the folks pay double that, about 10 billion. No small chunk change. I cannot find total tallies for all the states, but one estimate gave over 300 billion dollars cost to the United States for allowing them entrance.


FAIR: Costs of Illegal Immigration to Texans: Executive Summary
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:38 AM
 
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I rather they showed respect to the people who come here legally and have to wait in long times and pay several thousand dollars for the privilege of being here... for me and most Americans, we are like gas station owners... legal immigrants are waiting in line to get gas and illegal immigrants are the ones who are cutting in line and demand that we "give" them free gas as well... that is incredibly disrespectful fo the people who wait in line... and have to wait and to pay for that gas themselves...
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