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Old 07-29-2008, 05:21 PM
 
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If you're talking about illegal aliens, of COURSE they're coming for money. You earlier suggested that EVERYONE came for this reason.....not so.
I do believe I clarified this in my other posts as well.
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:25 PM
 
Location: California
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VERY recently. People are STILL coming for those reasons. Vietnamese...Cubans....Somalis....Chinese....Haiti ans.....many others. Coming for freedom and a chance to stay alive, not for a pay raise.
A pay raise? lol. Its a little more than that.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:01 PM
 
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A pay raise? lol. Its a little more than that.
We're listening.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:28 PM
 
Location: California
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We're listening.
No ones denying the quality of life is overall better in the U.S.

Sure you end up in one of the neighborhoods the country the doesnt care about with a bunch of other minorities, where there is lots of drugs, gangs, and poverty. But the chance for your kid to grow up, get a better education, and find good work and MAYBE move up into the middle class are a lot higher than if you are in the poor class of Mexico.

Would you rather be in the poor class of Mexico or the poor class of the U.S.?

Theyre not moving to the U.S. for a promotion or a 5 percent raise in salary. Theyre moving here because its better being poor here than in the U.S.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:34 PM
 
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No ones denying the quality of life is overall better in the U.S.

Sure you end up in one of the neighborhoods the country the doesnt care about with a bunch of other minorities, where there is lots of drugs, gangs, and poverty. But the chance for your kid to grow up, get a better education, and find good work and MAYBE move up into the middle class are a lot higher than if you are in the poor class of Mexico.

Would you rather be in the poor class of Mexico or the poor class of the U.S.?

Theyre not moving to the U.S. for a promotion or a 5 percent raise in salary. Theyre moving here because its better being poor here than in the U.S.
Then they should be THANKFUL....GRATEFUL....HAPPY..and RELIEVED, and willing to 'bend over backward' to get along with the locals here. Yet somehow they're not..they're angry, upset, and resentful. Please explain this apparent mystery.

When most people go from a 'bad' situation to a 'good' one, it makes them feel better, not worse. And normally, they thank their benefactors..if not by 'falling all over them', then at least by going out of their way to not ANNOY them. Am I missing something here? How come the 'new' illegals are so different from the 'earlier' illegals?
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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No ones denying the quality of life is overall better in the U.S.

Sure you end up in one of the neighborhoods the country the doesnt care about with a bunch of other minorities, where there is lots of drugs, gangs, and poverty. But the chance for your kid to grow up, get a better education, and find good work and MAYBE move up into the middle class are a lot higher than if you are in the poor class of Mexico.

Would you rather be in the poor class of Mexico or the poor class of the U.S.?

Theyre not moving to the U.S. for a promotion or a 5 percent raise in salary. Theyre moving here because its better being poor here than in the U.S.
I have to agree with you on this. They can have babies and receive welfare and other freebies here in the US. They can have the U.S. taxpayers foot the bills for their prenatal and postnatal care, as well as loads of other goodies for their anchors. They can use the emergency rooms as the primary care physician, and not pay a dime. In other words, they can USE the stupid taxpayers in the U.S., while they would simply be SOL in Mexico. It makes perfect sense to me.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:43 PM
 
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I have to agree with you on this. They can have babies and receive welfare and other freebies here in the US. They can have the U.S. taxpayers foot the bills for their prenatal and postnatal care, as well as loads of other goodies for their anchors. They can use the emergency rooms as the primary care physician, and not pay a dime. In other words, they can USE the stupid taxpayers in the U.S., while they would simply be SOL in Mexico. It makes perfect sense to me.
That WAS one of the more 'telling' posts we've seen, wasn't it? Sounds almost like something Joe Arpaio would say..("You've got it GOOD here, so SHUT UP !!").....
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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That WAS one of the more 'telling' posts we've seen, wasn't it? Sounds almost like something Joe Arpaio would say..("You've got it GOOD here, so SHUT UP !!").....
Yes indeedy!
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:11 PM
 
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That WAS one of the more 'telling' posts we've seen, wasn't it? Sounds almost like something Joe Arpaio would say..("You've got it GOOD here, so SHUT UP !!").....
It certainly beats the hell out of the usual mantra of "No Human Being Is Illegal".
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:02 PM
 
Location: California
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Then they should be THANKFUL....GRATEFUL....HAPPY..and RELIEVED, and willing to 'bend over backward' to get along with the locals here. Yet somehow they're not..they're angry, upset, and resentful. Please explain this apparent mystery.

When most people go from a 'bad' situation to a 'good' one, it makes them feel better, not worse. And normally, they thank their benefactors..if not by 'falling all over them', then at least by going out of their way to not ANNOY them. Am I missing something here? How come the 'new' illegals are so different from the 'earlier' illegals?
How much of a fuss are they really causing? There are a lot of groups that advocate illegal immigrants that are annoying you guys so much.

Whats an illegal immigrant to do if they got people pushing for them to become citizens?
"You want to help us? Sure, ill march on your parade!"


Aside from that, illegals arent doing anything to "annoy" people. Theyre just working.

But certain problems in this county require a scapegoat, so they are being put in the spotlight.
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