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Old 07-26-2008, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Here's the part where I remind you that Spain is where Hispanic surnames originate and that Spain happens to be located in Europe and inhabited by people who are overwhelmingly white. A Rodriguez could be as white as an O'Kelly, Llewellyn, Olsen or Schmidt.




Way to shed some new light on this for us. I don't know why the media goes out of their way to try to put some of these people in a positive light. If it were some Mexican kids who beat a White pedophile to death, they would probably hold a ticker-tape parade for them.
And I would likely take said Mexican kids out for dinner as a token of thanks
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Old 07-26-2008, 03:00 PM
 
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It's wrong they beat this guy but there was more to it than originally reported. It turns out the victim was a pedophile hanging around the park and had a teenage girlfriend. Of course the media finds the older girlfriend who was having his kids to make him seem a bit more sympathetic.

A pedophile also should not be beat and killed but that's what this guy was in addition to being a Mexican illegal. Likely the killers didn't know his immigration status and it had more to do with the sleazeball hanging out in parks to pick up minor girls.
Source please.
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Old 07-26-2008, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Source please.
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According to a police affidavit, the defendants and three 17-year-olds encountered Ramirez, 25, and a teenage girl in a park the night of July 12.

The youths goaded Ramirez and the girl, saying, "You should get out of this neighborhood" and "Get your Mexican boyfriend out of here," documents said
Odd that the girl's age was not listed: if she were age 18-19 she would be an adult........I strongly suspect that she was a minor.
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:15 PM
 
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Odd that the girl's age was not listed: if she were age 18-19 she would be an adult........I strongly suspect that she was a minor.
So that makes him a pedo?
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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So that makes him a pedo?
According to the law, yes.
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:07 PM
 
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According to the law, yes.
How do we know the girl isn't 18? We are just making assumptions here don't you think? How do we know he was even sexually attracted to this girl?

I found out who the teenage girl was.



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Crystal Dillman, his 24-year-old fiancee, who is white and grew up in Shenandoah, said Friday that Ramirez was walking her sister to a friend's house the night of the attack. "He was just trying to be a good person, making sure she got (there) safe," said Dillman, adding she was relieved the charges include ethnic intimidation
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http://www.insidebayarea.com/search/ci_9996051?IADID=Search-www.insidebayarea.com-www.insidebayarea.com (broken link)

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Old 07-26-2008, 07:46 PM
 
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It's wrong they beat this guy but there was more to it than originally reported. It turns out the victim was a pedophile hanging around the park and had a teenage girlfriend. Of course the media finds the older girlfriend who was having his kids to make him seem a bit more sympathetic.

A pedophile also should not be beat and killed but that's what this guy was in addition to being a Mexican illegal. Likely the killers didn't know his immigration status and it had more to do with the sleazeball hanging out in parks to pick up minor girls.
What minor girls hang out at the park at 11 pm ? It is pretty sad how some of you will do or say anything to vilify this guy.
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Old 07-26-2008, 07:56 PM
 
Location: California
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Aww . . . it probably took bk04 all week to find that ONE LITTLE INCIDENT . . spoiler.
its a FOLLOW UP.
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Old 07-26-2008, 08:04 PM
 
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So that makes him a pedo?

In the USA, if she is under age 18, then yes of course it does. Why is a man with a number of children lurking in parks where teenagers hang out?

And why all the initial reports trying to portray him as a good family man with 2 illegitimate children when it turns out he's hanging in the park with young underaged girls?

There was more to this than 3 young racists or anti-illegal immigration types. Something isn't right about an older man with a number of children "dating" a young teenage girl.
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Old 07-26-2008, 08:04 PM
 
Location: California
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What minor girls hang out at the park at 11 pm ? It is pretty sad how some of you will do or say anything to vilify this guy.
It's disgusting. I don't know whats wrong with these people. I think deep down inside, theres a couple people in here who think these kids did a good thing.
Making it more acceptable by claiming the guy was a pedophile.

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Likely the killers didn't know his immigration status and it had more to do with the sleazeball hanging out in parks to pick up minor girls.
I still strongly believe this was a racist murder.
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