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Old 09-01-2011, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by miss yauco View Post
Do you have any proof that "illegals" break the law more than the "legals" ?
% wise or as individuals?
I think its safe to say that more illegals percentagewise commit fraud than legal immigrants do. I think more evade taxes? Oh yes.
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:24 PM
 
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% wise or as individuals?
I think its safe to say that more illegals percentagewise commit fraud than legal immigrants do. I think more evade taxes? Oh yes.
Think again, if these workers filed taxes, not only they would not pay, due to their income levels, but they would be eligeble for child income credit, which in fact would put money in their pockets, furthermore many "illegals"
pay social security taxes, while not elegible for receiving benefits.....
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:42 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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By definition, every illegal is breaking the laws.
Oh thank you, for saying that. Some just don't get it do they?
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:46 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Think again, if these workers filed taxes, not only they would not pay, due to their income levels, but they would be eligeble for child income credit, which in fact would put money in their pockets, furthermore many "illegals"
pay social security taxes, while not elegible for receiving benefits.....
Oh really, not the many many getting paid under the table, and i do happen to know most who are not paying one red cent of taxes. They are getting paid under the table.
Don't get me started on this please. More then you want to know of. And in many fields, the employers are to blame for hiring these law breakers, they are law breakers themselves.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:25 AM
 
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You've got the cause and effect backwards.
You are as wrong as the day is long, any addiction scientist will tell you the drugs come first by the lowlife dealers and then the kids are lured into addiction.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:47 AM
 
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So ignorant, start learning. Yes, we are blaming Mexican drug cartels who are illegals for their many drug addicted victims in America and destroyed families. No we are not grateful to drug cartels for taking dangers of Meth out of U.S.A. territory, it's a lie. U.S. is where these evil cartel monsters sell the drugs like Meth to kill and destroy addicts and abuse their children 24/7, and cartels admit they won't sell it in Mexico since it's so evil the devil's drug. There are a few hundred miles in AZ given up to Mexican drug cartels so they can sell drugs here in America to addicts and to jail/prison employees to take in to the addicts, so yes you are right that 'we' meaning our government spends a huge amount of money on illegal drugs in order to keep our entire law enforcement system thriving. That has to be what you meant! Yes illegals are taking our blue collar jobs but that is an entirely different subject.

You don't get it, meth was invented in the usa, and it has a huge following in the usa, and not elsewhere, the drug dealers which are anglos, took their production to mexico for a better enviroment, the drug addicts are already embedded in the usa, we have a culture of addiction, and to blame migrant workers for it is plain stupid. For your info, the new trend in drug abuse in the usa is with prescription drugs, if you look it up, you will find out that the number of overdoses have remained stable for all street drugs over the past 2 decades, and for prescription drugs it has gone up exponentially, and if you don't know it, these drugs are american made, american prescribed and american abused, are you blaming Pancho the farm worker for it as well???
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Old 09-25-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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You don't get it, meth was invented in the usa, and it has a huge following in the usa, and not elsewhere, the drug dealers which are anglos, took their production to mexico for a better enviroment, the drug addicts are already embedded in the usa, we have a culture of addiction, and to blame migrant workers for it is plain stupid. For your info, the new trend in drug abuse in the usa is with prescription drugs, if you look it up, you will find out that the number of overdoses have remained stable for all street drugs over the past 2 decades, and for prescription drugs it has gone up exponentially, and if you don't know it, these drugs are american made, american prescribed and american abused, are you blaming Pancho the farm worker for it as well???

Yes I get it, involved in the science of addiction as well as distribution of meth, cocaine, since the mid 80's. Never blamed illegal migrant workers for any drugs. While your past history on meth here is correct (and that was a much weaker meth made with ephedrine from cold pills in the U.S. in the past), the drug dealers of "today" for U.S. are "mainly" Mexican drug cartels who are in both in Mexico and here in every state now, and these statistics are on the DEA site, so not anglo cartels today. Mexico also has some meth addicts but not as much as America because the drug cartels have stated that they will not give/sell meth to Mexicans since it is too dangerous too evil. Our government is hard at work with their so called drug war to allow (encourage) all the illegal street drugs to come here from Mexico by Mexican drug cartels, our government lets drugs in and they keep a small amount out. They are letting Mexican drug cartels use a few hundred miles of AZ to transport their drugs. Then Mexican drug cartels give/sell the drugs to U.S. addicts and employees of secured camera jails all over the U.S. The jail employees distribute the drugs to inmates, and the courts say nothing about drugged inmates in their court rooms. Law enforcement wouldn't think of using drug sniffing dogs as they use at airports of course. All this keeps entire law enforcement system thriving. There are at least ten meth superlabs in the world today (Asia, India, etc.) where pseudoephedrine is produced, a highly refined strong poison and highly addictive, and then it's transported to countries, especially Mexico for the cartels to make meth and transport to the U.S. Meth use is rising in the rest of the world also.
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:15 PM
 
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By definition, every illegal is breaking the laws.
Is ok for illegals to be in our country?
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Old 09-25-2011, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Is ok for illegals to be in our country?
Here, let me get this one for you. NO.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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So, you are blaming illegal immigrants for the insatiable thirst for drugs of americans, if at all, we should be grateful that at least they have taken
the dangers of the meth factories out of usa territory, we live tough times, we need to step up to the plate and work harder than anyone else in order to help our economy, and what do we do, spend a huge amount of money and time in drugs, while whining that the "illegals" are "taking" our jobs, pathetic...
Oh, lets see here. Yes, I am blaming illegals for transporting a whole host of drugs across the border.
Cocaine, meth, smack and tons of pot (400lbs is small
bust here in AZ)
Its somewhat of a "build your business" mentality.
It's totally absurd that you think we should be "grateful" for any of the poison they mfg and bring
into the USA.. Black tar heroin is a favorite among
children in the Dallas area, I here.

When you say"WE" spend alot of time an money on
drugs. Who are you refering to ? Just curious. do you
have a frog in your pocket maybe ?

I do agree times are hard & we should step up to
the plate.. Whats your suggestion ? We should just
take the AK's, and the dope and stop "whining"
about the poor illegals ? That would just be pathetic.
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