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Old 07-28-2008, 04:16 PM
 
Location: California
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There's a gang forum???
Oh thats right, there isn't one. Lets just put it on the immigration forum aka the Latinos are evil and taking over the world forum.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:17 PM
 
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Created by whom?

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• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.
• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.
• The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.
Good luck finding any reference to such facts in official crime analysis. The LAPD and the L.A. city attorney recently requested an injunction against drug trafficking in Hollywood, targeting the 18th Street Gang and the “non–gang members” who sell drugs in Hollywood for the gang. Those non–gang members are virtually all illegal Mexicans, smuggled into the country by a ring organized by 18th Street bigs. The Mexicans pay off their transportation debts to the gang by selling drugs; many soon realize how lucrative that line of work is and stay in the business.
Cops and prosecutors universally know the immigration status of these non-gang “Hollywood dealers,” as the city attorney calls them, but the gang injunction is assiduously silent on the matter. And if a Hollywood officer were to arrest an illegal dealer (known on the street as a “border brother”) for his immigration status, or even notify the Immigration and Naturalization Service (since early 2003, absorbed into the new Department of Homeland Security), he would face severe discipline for violating Special Order 40, the city’s sanctuary policy.
The ordinarily tough-as-nails former LAPD chief Daryl Gates enacted Special Order 40 in 1979—showing that even the most unapologetic law-and-order cop is no match for immigration advocates. The order prohibits officers from “initiating police action where the objective is to discover the alien status of a person”—in other words, the police may not even ask someone they have arrested about his immigration status until after they have filed criminal charges, nor may they arrest someone for immigration violations. They may not notify immigration authorities about an illegal alien picked up for minor violations. Only if they have already booked an illegal alien for a felony or for multiple misdemeanors may they inquire into his status or report him. The bottom line: a cordon sanitaire between local law enforcement and immigration authorities that creates a safe haven for illegal criminals.
The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave by Heather Mac Donald, City Journal Winter 2004


Just wanted to co-sign.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:18 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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The fact that this disgustingly violent gang is out there is more important to me than knowing there are more illegals/mexicans NOT in this gang.
The gang exists, thanks to our open borders. That's enough for me.
No, the gang does not exist because of our open borders. Research will show you the gang formed in another country and spread here like any other disease. And I would nearly guarantee that the guys on top of this operation are not the illegals we so want to remove from the country. These guys are smart enough to cover their butts, do what they need to do not to bring attention to themselves, and run their empire through so many middle men that tracing them is all but impossible. MS-13 may be a criminal organization, but they are exactly that, Organized!! They are the new wave of organized crime and these kinds of operations have a way of going where they want to no matter what kind of protections we may have in place. The simple fact is America is a gold mine for providers of illegal drugs, weapons, etc. This is where the big timers want to be because this is where they can really make money. So, until we rid ourselves of not only the illegals, but also our petty addictions and malicious needs gangs like this will always be around to provide such services and cause chaos. You can run every Mexican and Spanish person you see out of this country and the gang will continue to flourish. They will merely replace their Hispanic minions with young impressionable black and white teens.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:18 PM
 
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It's origins lie in the streets of L.A. It was created by Salvadorian immigrants. I don't know if they were illegal or not.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:19 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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There's a gang forum???
It seems to me like he can't stand that precious illegals are doing bad stuff and hates when this is pointed out. His response is more often than not "everyone does it, why focus on illegals?" Sweep everything under the rug so no one sees the elephant standing in the room.

To me, trying to relegate this thread to a non-esistent forum is his way of trying to squash unfavorable publicity about illegal aliens' activities.

Disclaimer: But of course, these are only my own personal viewpoints and by no means am I speaking for him.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Ca2Mo2Ga2Va!
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Oh thats right, there isn't one. Lets just put it on the immigration forum aka the Latinos are evil and taking over the world forum.
Oh, you were joking. Next time let me know
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I've said it before, and I reiterate.....top priority should be to rid our country of these brutal gangs and other illegal alien violent criminals. We have enough homegrown miscreants; we don't need to tolerate those imported from other countries. I'm not willing to simply accept this behavior as though we have no choice. If theyíre not legal citizens, they donít need to be here. Let them wreak havoc in their own countries.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:24 PM
 
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Don't know how many times those lies have been debunked.


snopes.com: Just One State - Cost of Illegals in Los Angeles
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:27 PM
 
Location: California
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It seems to me like he can't stand that precious illegals are doing bad stuff and hates when this is pointed out. His response is more often than not "everyone does it, why focus on illegals?" Sweep everything under the rug so no one sees the elephant standing in the room.

To me, trying to relegate this thread to a non-esistent forum is his way of trying to squash unfavorable publicity about illegal aliens' activities.

Disclaimer: But of course, these are only my own personal viewpoints and by no means am I speaking for him.
But of course .


Find me one post where I say "everyone does it, why focus on illegals?", and I promise I wont H8 you.

And you caught, me, I wuz tryin to moof this thread to a non-esistent fohum. You kot me!
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Ca2Mo2Ga2Va!
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But of course .


Find me one post where I say "everyone does it, why focus on illegals?", and I promise I wont H8 you.

And you caught, me, I wuz tryin to moof this thread to a non-esistent fohum. You kot me!

What's this last sentence written in? Spanglish?
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