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Old 07-28-2008, 04:30 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by blacknight04 View Post
Don't know how many times those lies have been debunked.


snopes.com: Just One State - Cost of Illegals in Los Angeles
I doubt if 95 percent of homicide warrants are even made out to Latinos.

The majority of killings are between Latinos, but theres a lot of Blacks wasting each other too, and a substantial number of Whites.

All you gotta do is look at the homicide report.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:32 PM
 
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I've said it before, and I reiterate.....top priority should be to rid our country of these brutal gangs and other illegal alien violent criminals. We have enough homegrown miscreants; we don't need to tolerate those imported from other countries. I'm not willing to simply accept this behavior as though we have no choice. If theyíre not legal citizens, they donít need to be here. Let them wreak havoc in their own countries.
ITA. On the other hand, I want them all out and I really don't care which group of illegal alien dirt bags gets the hell out first.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:39 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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I doubt if 95 percent of homicide warrants are even made out to Latinos.

The majority of killings are between Latinos, but theres a lot of Blacks wasting each other too, and a substantial number of Whites.

All you gotta do is look at the homicide report.
Looks like a thread hijack in session - this thread is about three MS-13 leaders in Tennessee - you are now using smoke and mirrors from a Los Angeles homicide blog to divert attention.

We are onto the game, my good man.
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Old 07-28-2008, 05:56 PM
 
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Looks like a thread hijack in session - this thread is about three MS-13 leaders in Tennessee - you are now using smoke and mirrors from a Los Angeles homicide blog to divert attention.

We are onto the game, my good man.
Indeed. But that's what happens when you run out of defenses for the indefensible.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:00 PM
 
Location: California
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Looks like a thread hijack in session - this thread is about three MS-13 leaders in Tennessee - you are now using smoke and mirrors from a Los Angeles homicide blog to divert attention.

We are onto the game, my good man.
Hijack session?
I was responding to this post by JW's Mom, haha

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• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens.
• A confidential California Department of Justice study reported in 1995 that 60 percent of the 20,000-strong 18th Street Gang in southern California is illegal; police officers say the proportion is actually much greater. The bloody gang collaborates with the Mexican Mafia, the dominant force in California prisons, on complex drug-distribution schemes, extortion, and drive-by assassinations, and commits an assault or robbery every day in L.A. County. The gang has grown dramatically over the last two decades by recruiting recently arrived youngsters, most of them illegal, from Central America and Mexico.
• The leadership of the Columbia Lil’ Cycos gang, which uses murder and racketeering to control the drug market around L.A.’s MacArthur Park, was about 60 percent illegal in 2002, says former assistant U.S. attorney Luis Li. Francisco Martinez, a Mexican Mafia member and an illegal alien, controlled the gang from prison, while serving time for felonious reentry following deportation.
Good luck finding any reference to such facts in official crime analysis. The LAPD and the L.A. city attorney recently requested an injunction against drug trafficking in Hollywood, targeting the 18th Street Gang and the “non–gang members” who sell drugs in Hollywood for the gang. Those non–gang members are virtually all illegal Mexicans, smuggled into the country by a ring organized by 18th Street bigs. The Mexicans pay off their transportation debts to the gang by selling drugs; many soon realize how lucrative that line of work is and stay in the business.
Cops and prosecutors universally know the immigration status of these non-gang “Hollywood dealers,” as the city attorney calls them, but the gang injunction is assiduously silent on the matter. And if a Hollywood officer were to arrest an illegal dealer (known on the street as a “border brother”) for his immigration status, or even notify the Immigration and Naturalization Service (since early 2003, absorbed into the new Department of Homeland Security), he would face severe discipline for violating Special Order 40, the city’s sanctuary policy.
The ordinarily tough-as-nails former LAPD chief Daryl Gates enacted Special Order 40 in 1979—showing that even the most unapologetic law-and-order cop is no match for immigration advocates. The order prohibits officers from “initiating police action where the objective is to discover the alien status of a person”—in other words, the police may not even ask someone they have arrested about his immigration status until after they have filed criminal charges, nor may they arrest someone for immigration violations. They may not notify immigration authorities about an illegal alien picked up for minor violations. Only if they have already booked an illegal alien for a felony or for multiple misdemeanors may they inquire into his status or report him. The bottom line: a cordon sanitaire between local law enforcement and immigration authorities that creates a safe haven for illegal criminals.
But youre right..the original article IS about MS 13 leaders in Tennessee...why on earth would JDUB post this info to support that? Good point, Donth8me. (haha, i like how she cosigns your comment on its irrelevance!)

You guys really are a paranoid bunch.
You give me too much credit.
I have no "games". And yet youre onto it! Too smart for me.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:06 PM
 
Location: California
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What's this last sentence written in? Spanglish?
Ask DontH8tme.

I was teasing him, anti-illegal style. You know, when theres no argument, so they resort to pointing out grammar errors and misspellings?
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Ca2Mo2Ga2Va!
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Ask DontH8tme.

I was teasing him, anti-illegal style. You know, when theres no argument, so they resort to pointing out grammar errors and misspellings?
Oh, again with the jokes...you pro-illegals are a funny crowd
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:25 PM
 
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Here is the skinny on Mara Salvatrucha MS-13 from a fairly reliable site on gangs in general.
Mara Salvatrucha Gang - MS-13 (http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/profiles/ms13/ - broken link)

We are not the only nation plagued by this gang. They have also become active in Spain where i have family in the National Police force. At first they confined themselves to their own people then it spread to other foreigners from Latin America living in Spain. When it finally hit the Spanish population it didn't take long for the police to crack down on them and the police in Spain as in other European nations real "crack down" with some violent`police tactics that we do not use here. Maybe we should. In any event many have left Spain or gone underground but the Spanish police are so busy with Muslim terrorists they don't have the resources to ferret out MS-13s and members of The Latin Kings. None the less it appears that the tactics used have diminished the presence of the two foreign gangs.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:35 PM
 
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Here is the skinny on Mara Salvatrucha MS-13 from a fairly reliable site on gangs in general.
Mara Salvatrucha Gang - MS-13 (http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/profiles/ms13/ - broken link)

We are not the only nation plagued by this gang. They have also become active in Spain where i have family in the National Police force. At first they confined themselves to their own people then it spread to other foreigners from Latin America living in Spain. When it finally hit the Spanish population it didn't take long for the police to crack down on them and the police in Spain as in other European nations real "crack down" with some violent`police tactics that we do not use here. Maybe we should. In any event many have left Spain or gone underground but the Spanish police are so busy with Muslim terrorists they don't have the resources to ferret out MS-13s and members of The Latin Kings. None the less it appears that the tactics used have diminished the presence of the two foreign gangs.
Most of the MS-13 information is mostly because of the media. They aren't that "super gang". I have a family member in the police and he says that they're not the ones we should be worrying about. It's the Sureno gang(s).
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:45 PM
 
Location: California
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Most of the MS-13 information is mostly because of the media. They aren't that "super gang". I have a family member in the police and he says that they're not the ones we should be worrying about. It's the Sureno gang(s).
MS-13 is pretty tough. Surenos are just WAY more widespread and larger in number, just so many gangs(with their sets) that claim Sureno.

MS-13 gangs are just becoming known because they are appearing all over the place, even places that dont usually see Latino gangs, or even Latinos for that matter. Theyre giving a taste of the big city to a lot of small towns. In a town where there is very few homicides, and a murder happens that is tied to a gang that shares the name of an infamous LA gang, you know theres going to be a panic.
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