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Old 07-28-2008, 03:51 PM
 
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At the plea hearing on July 28, 2008, in Nashville, Tenn., before Chief U.S. District Judge Todd J. Campbell of the Middle District of Tennessee, Oscar Serrano, a/k/a "Diablin," Escolastico Serrano, a/k/a "Chito," and Ronald Fuentes, a/k/a "Spia," admitted that as leaders of the MS-13 gang, they conspired with others to participate in a pattern of racketeering activity in the Nashville metropolitan area, that included murder, attempted murder and witness tampering. In addition to personally committing various acts of violence, the three defendants admitted they exercised leadership by enforcing the rules of MS-13 and inciting other members to attack and kill rival gang members.

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SOB. . . .but . . but they're just misguided children exercising their new found American freedom.
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:54 PM
 
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I guess its good to know..? Is this for "riling up" purposes?
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:55 PM
 
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I guess its good to know..? Is this for "riling up" purposes?
Nope that's why there are (fill in the blank) like you are here.

This is to INFORM MY FELLOW AMERICANS of what is going on in OUR country.
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:57 PM
 
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Nope that's why there are (fill in the blank) like you are here.

This is to INFORM MY FELLOW AMERICANS of what is going on in OUR country.
Gangs are bad. Got it, thanks.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:00 PM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Did I just hear a broom sweeping things under the rug? Swissh, swissshhh, nothing to see here folks, move along......yeah right!
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Ca2Mo2Ga2Va!
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I guess its good to know..? Is this for "riling up" purposes?
No, it's newsworthy...can't handle the truth can you?
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:05 PM
 
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I think you might be riled up if your spouse or child were a victim.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:06 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Default Yes, the world today is a dangerous place!

I do not personally know any members of any particular gang what so ever

these days. But I do know that there are far more Mexicans and illegal

immigrants not involved in these kinds of activities than are involved. In

fact, many immigrants that I have spoken with are just as much against

these types of gangs and violence as the rest of us are. And just because

MS-13 is currently the more well known and malicious gang on the streets,

it doesn't change the fact that we still have plenty of our own homegrown

thugs running around. Sure, this MS-13 is the meanest thing on the street

right now, but there is always someone meaner waiting to take their place.

A tighter leash on illegal immigration may help somewhat in stemming the

tide of new recruits, but just like the Crips and Bloods I think MS is here to

stay. And while all illegals are law-breakers, they can't be solely blamed for

the rise of MS-13. Particularly since it isn't even a Mexican born gang. It

rose in El Salvador, through the misguided violence and anger of the

younger generation who had lived through the constant violence and death

of civil war. What began as a band of youngsters just trying to survive

has turned into the blood thirsty gang we see today. It is terribly troubling,

but also nothing new and certainly nothing we can really blame on the

Mexican population at large in the US.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:07 PM
 
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No, it's newsworthy...can't handle the truth can you?
That gangs exist? can you handle the truth that God might possibly not exist? LOL.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Ca2Mo2Ga2Va!
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I do not personally know any members of any particular gang what so ever

these days. But I do know that there are far more Mexicans and illegal

immigrants not involved in these kinds of activities than are involved. In

fact, many immigrants that I have spoken with are just as much against

these types of gangs and violence as the rest of us are. And just because

MS-13 is currently the more well known and malicious gang on the streets,

it doesn't change the fact that we still have plenty of our own homegrown

thugs running around. Sure, this MS-13 is the meanest thing on the street

right now, but there is always someone meaner waiting to take their place.

A tighter leash on illegal immigration may help somewhat in stemming the

tide of new recruits, but just like the Crips and Bloods I think MS is here to

stay. And while all illegals are law-breakers, they can't be solely blamed for

the rise of MS-13. Particularly since it isn't even a Mexican born gang. It

rose in El Salvador, through the misguided violence and anger of the

younger generation who had lived through the constant violence and death

of civil war. What began as a band of youngsters just trying to survive

has turned into the blood thirsty gang we see today. It is terribly troubling,

but also nothing new and certainly nothing we can really blame on the

Mexican population at large in the US.

The fact that this disgustingly violent gang is out there is more important to me than knowing there are more illegals/mexicans NOT in this gang.
The gang exists, thanks to our open borders. That's enough for me.
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