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Old 07-28-2008, 10:38 PM
 
Location: California
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The number of Mexicans gaining citizenship has been rising.
Number of Mexicans gaining citizenship soars in 2007 - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/immigration/la-me-citizen11-2008jul11,0,5839751.story - broken link)



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At the same time, the number of citizenship applications filed doubled to 1.4 million last year, the report by the U.S. Office of Immigration Statistics found. The surge in naturalization of Mexicans, their largest year-to-year increase this decade, came amid pitched national debate over immigration reform. The report cited the campaign by Spanish-language media and community groups, along with a desire to apply before steep fee increases took effect, as two major reasons for the jump in naturalizations.
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"Immigrants are tired of the tone and tenor of the immigration debate, which they feel is humiliating and does not recognize their contributions," said Rosalind Gold of the National Assn. of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials' Educational Fund in Los Angeles. "That climate has fueled their desire to have their voices heard."


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"I became a citizen to have full rights and vote for a president for the first time," said Rivera, adding that she and her family plan to vote for Democratic candidate Barack Obama.



Also, more young Latinos are taking an interest in politics. Myself included, much of this is due to the immigration debate.

Latino groups unite to launch $5-million voter registration drive - Los Angeles Times


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Participants were expected to discuss ways to take action on more than 150 resolutions approved in previous gatherings, including appeals to end the war, investigate Latino student underachievement, better cooperate with Latin America and adopt immigration reform that would legalize the nation's 12 million undocumented immigrants.

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Old 07-28-2008, 11:47 PM
 
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Voting of course didn't help their own country which also is a democracy.
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:52 PM
 
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Of course they would vote for Democrats. Even though Republicans own the businesses they attain their livelyhood froom, they are voting to undercut the small businessman. Why? So many Mexicans are small business owners themselves.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:10 AM
 
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Voting of course didn't help their own country which also is a democracy.
Their country is our country now. You have a problem with legal immigrants?
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:17 AM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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Voting of course didn't help their own country which also is a democracy.
with all respect, that statement, reflects a lot of ignorance of Mexico, since Voting started to mean something this country became something totally different.

Changes take time, just like the apple drops from the tree when the time is ripe.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:39 AM
 
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So, immigrants are becoming naturalized citizens because they find the illegal immigration debate to be 'humiliating'? I would hope that they would want to be citizens of this country because they believed in its ideals, and truly wanted to become a US citizen for more then to spare themselves hurt feelings.
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:42 AM
 
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So, immigrants are becoming naturalized citizens because they find the illegal immigration debate to be 'humiliating'? I would hope that they would want to be citizens of this country because they believed in its ideals, and truly wanted to become a US citizen for more then to spare themselves hurt feelings.
I agree.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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And; what is going to happen is the new US citizens will likely develop resentment against the illegals as well for making them look bad.
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:47 AM
 
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So, immigrants are becoming naturalized citizens because they find the illegal immigration debate to be 'humiliating'? I would hope that they would want to be citizens of this country because they believed in its ideals, and truly wanted to become a US citizen for more then to spare themselves hurt feelings.
Interesting, isn't it? If they are only interested in voting, they certainly don't have to become legalized. There will be plenty of illegal aliens voting in November.

I wonder how many of these new "citizens" were actually illegal aliens who have managed to fraudulently obtain documents. This type of fraud is rampant, and in a sanctuary state such as CA, it wouldn’t surprise me if the majority of these so-called new “immigrants” are simply illegal aliens. Corruption is out of control. Perhaps an investigation should be launched to ensure that these are in fact "legal" citizens.

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A federal immigration official pleaded guilty Thursday to receiving more than $600,000 in bribes for falsifying documents for illegal immigrants.

Robert Schofield, 57, could face 25 years in federal prison when he is sentenced in February.

He pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Virginia, to issuing fraudulent documents to at least 184 illegal immigrants who falsely received U.S. citizenship.
DHS official admits*taking bribes*to fake documents - CNN.com

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On Wednesday, ICE agents arrested 27 people and shut down a Queens, N.Y.-based immigration agency called Help Preparers Professional Services. An indictment unsealed Wednesday alleges that the agency arranged more than 200 fake marriages and sold more than $1 million in bogus "green cards," marriage and birth certificates, bank letters and employment records.

Customers allegedly paid Beverly Mozer-Browne, 49, of Brooklyn, up to $16,000 to create fake documents and to move them through the immigration process, the indictment says. Agents also arrested Mozer-Browne's brother, Phillip Browne, 40, of Kissimmee, Fla., who as an adjudication officer for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services allegedly approved the applications. Attempts to reach them for comment were unsuccessful
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USATODAY.com - Task forces aim to fight immigration fraud

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The threat posed by document fraud is exemplified by the fact that at least seven of the 9/11 hijackers obtained genuine Virginia identity documents by submitting fraudulent Virginia residency certificates. Using these ID cards, the hijackers were able to clear airport security and board aircraft for the attacks.
Document and Benefit Fraud Task Forces (http://www.ice.gov/partners/idbenfraud/idbenfraudtf.htm - broken link)
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Old 07-29-2008, 07:47 AM
 
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The number of Mexicans gaining citizenship has been rising.
Number of Mexicans gaining citizenship soars in 2007 - Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/immigration/la-me-citizen11-2008jul11,0,5839751.story - broken link)


Also, more young Latinos are taking an interest in politics. Myself included, much of this is due to the immigration debate.

Latino groups unite to launch $5-million voter registration drive - Los Angeles Times
Just think, now they can vote for even more benefits for themselves!
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