Gang Fears Force Illegal Immigrants to Request Asylum (quotes, law, Mexican)

[JDubsMom]

A growing number of illegal immigrants are being allowed to stay in the U.S. because they're asking for asylum in fear of recruitment or retaliation from brutal gangs like MS-13 if they return home to Central America.

"Victor Antonio" bears the evidence of the gang life he left behind. On his calf, a tattoo honoring an MS-13 member he says was stabbed to death by Honduran police. On his chest, he has another tattoo for a girlfriend gunned down by a rival gang.

"I'm 100% sure that if I returned to Honduras I would be assassinated by either the police or the gang," said "Antonio" through a translator.

He says he left MS-13 because he didn't want to be a part of its brutality. "They used violence against women and they would rape them and they would kill members of the community for no reason."

Gang Fears Force Illegal Immigrants to Request Asylum|ABC 7 News

These people have a con job excuse for everything. Normally gang members do not bother those who are NOT affiliated with them in some way. If you are ever accosted by a gang member (and have never been one nor have your family members) the odds are you are victimized once usually for quick financial gain. This idiot made his bed now he needs to lie in the one he left, back HOME.

How stupid do these 3rd world brainless losers think we really are?

[Californio]

If he was stabbed to death, wouldn't he be 'dead'?

[blacknight04]

How stupid do these 3rd world brainless losers think we really are?

Can anyone else feel the venom and hate coming from this quote?

You are sounding like a previous poster who got banned from this board :Earthmother is that you?

[Anonymous Political Junky]

Originally Posted by blacknight04

Can anyone else feel the venom and hate coming from this quote?

You are sounding like a previous poster who got banned from this board :Earthmother is that you?

Hmmmmm have no idea who Earthmother is but I am sure that many can feel the venom and hate from these quotes.

1) Armando Navarro, Prof. Ethnic Studies, UC Riverside at Latino Summit Response to Prop 187, UC Riverside, 1/1995
"These are the critical years for us as a Latino community. We're in a state of transition. And that transformation is called 'the browning of America'. Latinos are now becoming the majority. Because I know that time and history is on the side of the Chicano/Latino community. It is changing in the future and in the present the balance of power of this nation. It's a game - it's a game of power - who controls it. You (to MEChA students) are like the generals that command armies. We're in a state of war. This Proposition 187 is a declaration of war against the Latino/Chicano community of this country. They know the demographics. They know that history and time is on our side. As one community, as one people, as one nation within a nation as the community that we are, the Chicano/Latino community of this nation. What this means is a transfer of power. It means control." Click here to download this audio clip. (broken link)
2) Art Torres, former CA state senator, currently Chair of California Democrat Party at UC Riverside 1/1995
"Que viva la causa! It is an honor to be with the new leadership of the Americas, here meeting at UC Riverside. So with 187 on the ballot, what is it going to take for our people to vote - to see us walking into the gas ovens? It is electoral power that is going to make the determination of where we go as a community. And power is not given to you -- you have to take it. Remember: 187 is the last gasp of white America in California. Understand that. And people say to me on the Senate floor when I was in the Senate, 'Why do you fight so hard for affirmative action programs?' And I tell my white colleagues, 'because you're going to need them.'" Click here to download this audio clip. (broken link)
3) Jose Angel Gutierrez, Prof. Univ. Texas at Arlington, founder La Raza Unida Party at UC Riverside 1/1995
"The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights. What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male. This is our homeland. We cannot - we will not- and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not immigrants that came from another country to another country. We are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It's a matter of time. The explosion is in our population." Click here to download this audio clip. (broken link)
4) Bill Richardson, New Mexico Governor, former U.S. Congressman, U.N. Ambassador, U.S. Sect'y of Energy interviewed on radio Latino USA responding to Congressional Immigration Reform legislation in 1996
"There are changing political times where our basic foundations and programs are being attacked, illegal and legal immigration are being unfairly attacked. We have to band together, and that means Latinos in Florida, Cuban-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, South Americans, we have to network better - we have to be more politically minded, we have to put aside party and think of ourselves as Latinos, as Hispanics more than we have in the past." Click here to download this audio clip. (broken link)
5) Mario Obledo, founding member/former nat'l director of Mexican-American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), former CA Sect'y Health/Welfare on Tom Leykis radio talk show
"We're going to take over all the political institutions in California. In five years the Hispanics are going to be the majority population of this state." Caller: "You also made the statement that California is going to become a Hispanic state and if anyone doesn't like it they should leave - did you say that?" Obledo: "I did. They ought to go back to Europe." Click here to download this audio clip. (broken link)
6) CCIR commentary on Mario Obledo
When CCIR, the California Coalition for Immigration Reform, erected a billboard on the California/Arizona border reading, "WELCOME TO CALIFORNIA, THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION STATE", Mario Obledo, infuriated, went to the billboard location and threatened to blow it up or burn it down. Even after this threat to deny American citizens their freedom of speech, President Clinton awarded Obledo the Presidential Medal of Freedom, America's highest civilian honor. CCIR question to Obledo:"Jose Angel Gutierrez said, 'We have an aging white America, they are dying, I love it.' How would you translate that statement?" Obledo: "He's a good friend of mine. A very smart person." Click here to download this audio clip. (broken link)
7) Richard Alatorre, former Los Angeles City Councilman at Latino Summit conference in Los Angeles opposing CA Prop. 209 ending affirmative action in 9/1996
"Because our numbers are growing, they're afraid about this great mass of minorities that now live in our community. They're afraid that we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They are right, we will take them over, and we are not going to go away - we are here to stay, and we are saying 'ya basta' (enough!) and we are going to turn... and de... not elect or re-elect people that believe that they are going to advance their political careers on the backs of immigrants and the backs of minorities." Click here to download this audio clip. (broken link)
8) Joe Baca, former CA Assemblymember, currently member of Congress at Latino Summit Response to Prop 187 UC Riverside 1/1995 and Southwest Voter Registration Project annual conference in Los Angeles, 6/1996
"We need more Latinos out there. We must stand up and be counted. We must be together, We must be united. Because if we're not united you know what's going to happen? We're like sticks - we're broken to pieces. Divided we're not together. But as a unit they can't break us. So we've got to come together, and if we're united, si se puede (it can be done) and we will make the changes that are necessary. But we've got to do it. We've got to stand together, and dammit, don't let them divide us because that's what they want to do, is to divide us. And once we're divided we're conquered. But when we look out at the audience and we see, you know, la familia, La Raza (the family, our race), you know, it's a great feeling, isn't it a good feeling? And you know, I started to think about that and it reminded me of a book that we all read and we all heard about, you know, Paul Revere, and when he was saying, 'The British are coming, the British are coming!' Well, the Latinos are coming, the Latinos are coming! And the Latinos are going to vote. So our voices will be heard. So that's what this agenda is about. It's about insuring that we increase our numbers. That we increase our numbers at every level. We talk about the Congressional, we talk about the Senate, we talk about board of supervisors, board of education, city councils, commissions, we have got to increase out numbers because the Latinos are coming. Because what's going on right now, with 187, the CCRI (CA Civil Rights Initiative against affirmative action), and let me tell you, we can't go back, you know, we're in a civil war. But we need to be solidified, we need to come together, we must be strong, because united we form a strong body. United we become solidified, united we make a difference, united we make the changes, united Latinos will win throughout California, let's stick together, que si se puede, que no? (it can be done, right?) Click here to download this audio clip. (broken link)
read and hear more here:
The Takeover of America CD -- CCIR - February, 2004 (broken link)

[Benicar]

This is so ridiculous! MS-13 has gangs in practically every state in this country. How would he find refuge here from MS-13?

[JDubsMom]

Originally Posted by Benicar

This is so ridiculous! MS-13 has gangs in practically every state in this country. How would he find refuge here from MS-13?

Exactly, they just don't want to go home where gang banging isn't as feared or lucrative as it is here. Here, they have plenty of victims to choose from and monetary schemes to create and profit from.

Back home? Poverty stricken masses, just about everybody has a scheme, a machete or a gun. They will be gunned down in the streets or hacked to death in a matter of days because everybody there is as violent as they are.

[Mach50]

Originally Posted by blacknight04

Can anyone else feel the venom and hate coming from this quote?

You are sounding like a previous poster who got banned from this board :Earthmother is that you?

Earthmother = Veiled Prophet = Quirky Cynick

All = Not a member

I have also wondered about JDubsMom being another alias.

[Bummer]

Originally Posted by JDubsMom

How stupid do these 3rd world brainless losers think we really are?

Unfortunately, JDubsMom . . .

These disrespectful thugs will continue to pull the "asylum" stunt as long as our pandering politicians continue to consider and honor their requests.

[camping!]

Originally Posted by Anonymous Political Junky

Hmmmmm have no idea who Earthmother is but I am sure that many can feel the venom and hate from these quotes.

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Love all the quotes......as an aging white person I must say this makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about latinos.

[GuyPinestra]

Originally Posted by camping!

Love all the quotes......as an aging white person I must say this makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about latinos.

It's quotes like these and the freaks who make them that make me vehemently anti-illegal and at times even ashamed of my heritage. Just who the hell do these 'advocates' think they are, anyway?

But you won't hear our resident IA apologists speak out against this crap, they'll say (as usual) that it's just a 'fringe' and doesn't really MEAN anything. If you folks don't think this kind of subversion is a real threat you're not paying attention!