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Old 07-31-2008, 03:53 PM
 
Location: California
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Don't forget Aid to Families with Dependent Children - I found a reciept for "AFDC" ($265 per month) in my yard belonging to a lady at the address of the 12-15 or so illegals living across the street from one of my rent houses. They illegally converted a single-family home to a four-plex but code enforcement will do nothing.
Are you sure you didnt dig in their trash for that?

 
Old 07-31-2008, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Do you know the actual birth rate of Mexicans in America?
I believe it is actually 2.6-2.8.

The normal birthrate of Americans is 2.08, in Mexico it is 2.1.

A .5 - .7 deviation is not that incredible IMO.
So an increase of 25-33% (33-50% if you use a statisticians trick) is not 'incredible' to you? And your figures aren't broken down to the difference between LEGAL Mexicans and ILLEGAL ones, either. I'd be willing to wager that the birthrate for illegals is DOUBLE that of legal Hispanics.
 
Old 07-31-2008, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You hang around the Food Stamp office?
I've spent a few days there when I couldn't find a job, it was an eye-opening experience, believe me.
 
Old 07-31-2008, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Denver
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So an increase of 25-33% (33-50% if you use a statisticians trick) is not 'incredible' to you? And your figures aren't broken down to the difference between LEGAL Mexicans and ILLEGAL ones, either. I'd be willing to wager that the birthrate for illegals is DOUBLE that of legal Hispanics.
From the article in 2006:
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Hispanic immigrants in the United States are now reproducing at a faster rate, 2.8 children per woman, than Mexicans in Mexico
From another source in 2002:
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As for legal status, we estimate that the birth rate of illegal alien women was 3.1 children on average in 2002, or about 50 percent higher than the two children natives have on average. The birth rate for legal immigrants is 2.6, or about one-third higher than that of natives.
Center for Immigration Studies

Again birthrates in America and Mexico have been plummeting.
 
Old 07-31-2008, 04:05 PM
 
Location: USA
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Just a question? Why are there soooo many little Mexican kids running around? I just drove through a low rent part of my mid size town (50,000 people) and I noticed a disproportionate number of strollers. I guessed that one in two of these women had a stroller, that bad. Why is this phenomena taking place?

~Reconquista? - Retaking of land formerly theirs.

~To intentionally have births to as many U.S. babies as possible in hope to reduce the chance of being deported and thus separated from their kids?

I can understand wanting to have kids, but I was raised in a culture where you wait to have kids until you are fiscally stable, and responsible. Some of these families live in squalor that is notably un American -and can probably only be viewed in these immigrant enclaves. Is this truly American to have an undercalss of non-English speaking mass producers???
What we need is LEGISLATION to clarify the 14th Amendment is for US CItizens and legal immigrants' children only. All the law has to say is that any child born in the USA must have parents proof they are either citizens or Green Card holders at time of child's birth. Then if no proof can be provided, the state should issue a NON-citizens certificate of birth, so that the parents of the child can register the child witha consulate of their home country.

This country is already over-burded with health costs for its own citizens. Last thing we need are illegals crossing over going into labor to give birth here!

This video here says it best:

ACN :: Mexican Tourism Ad
 
Old 07-31-2008, 04:07 PM
 
Location: California
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I've spent a few days there when I couldn't find a job, it was an eye-opening experience, believe me.
Wouldnt know, never been to one. And hopefully I never will.
 
Old 07-31-2008, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Wouldnt know, never been to one. And hopefully I never will.
Competing with illegals for work is not easy. There were times I didn't know how I was going to feed the family. I hope you never have to go through it, it's not a very 'uplifting' experience.
 
Old 07-31-2008, 04:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Mach50 View Post
Do you know the actual birth rate of Mexicans in America?
I believe it is actually 2.6-2.8.

The normal birthrate of Americans is 2.08, in Mexico it is 2.1.

A .5 - .7 deviation is not that incredible IMO.

Mexican birthrate plummets / QCTimes.com

Maybe the reason you see Hispanics w/strollers out so much is because we are social? We are a Hispanic family and we take our 7month old everywhere, to get gas, talking at the grocery store, strolling to park, we also get together with many friends with a lot of kids.

Also poorer people don't always have cars, so you will see them out on the street with their baby more often.
Illegal aliens from Mexico are largely poor and lacking in education and job skills. When someone in the later stages of pregnancy crosses the border to give birth in a US hospital (knowing she has no way in he11 of paying the bill and never intending to), what is she thinking? Has it ever occurred to any of these individuals that SOMEBODY ends up footing the bill for their kid? Not only the delivery charges but all sorts of other expenses down the road? And that somebody is the US taxpayer? A pregnant illegal teenager who lives in the US is no different. They seem to think that it is 'cute' or something.
Many Americans WAIT to have a family until they can provide for a child.
There is nothing remotely amusing about having our hard earned money co-opted to pay for the irresponsible behavior of people who belong back in their own countries.
 
Old 07-31-2008, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Ca2Mo2Ga2Va!
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Illegal aliens from Mexico are largely poor and lacking in education and job skills. When someone in the later stages of pregnancy crosses the border to give birth in a US hospital (knowing she has no way in he11 of paying the bill and never intending to), what is she thinking? Has it ever occurred to any of these individuals that SOMEBODY ends up footing the bill for their kid? Not only the delivery charges but all sorts of other expenses down the road? And that somebody is the US taxpayer? A pregnant illegal teenager who lives in the US is no different. They seem to think that it is 'cute' or something.
Many Americans WAIT to have a family until they can provide for a child.
There is nothing remotely amusing about having our hard earned money co-opted to pay for the irresponsible behavior of people who belong back in their own countries.
They know who is paying for it, the problem is they don't care
 
Old 07-31-2008, 05:17 PM
 
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This thread proves the theory that many of the so called "anti-illegals" are really anti-hispanic/latino.
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