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Old 09-27-2008, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Why does AZbear's statement bother you? Let's face the facts, this nation stood against Hitler, Tojo, and the British Empire twice to ensure its sovreignty and the security of it's citizens. In fact as history recalls, the US even had conflict with its own on numerous occasions (Civil War, Civil Rights movement, etc) to ensure the betterment of its future. Are you suggesting that the common people of Mexico aren't capable of similar action? The US is tired of giving our unwanted illegal guests a free ride. If the illegals truely wish to enhance their futures they need to quit attempting to bring on massive change into our way of life and instead protest the issues that pertain to them in their home countries.
Consider the source.........the desperation of the pro illegals is growing.
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:14 PM
 
Location: California
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Consider the source.........the desperation of the pro illegals is growing.
Youve been saying that for awhile. I'd say things are about the same as the last few times you've said that.
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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People like you scare me.
If you or someone you know is indeed illegal being afraid is a very good thing-----------otherwise you have nothing to fear
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs,Co
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Default Two stupid people in the world

What a surprise nothing else new in the world only illegal immigrants would do such a thing like this to a teenage girl
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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What a surprise nothing else new in the world only illegal immigrants would do such a thing like this to a teenage girl
As far as I've read in these posts, nobody has made such a statement. I'll be the first to admit that the USA has more than enough of its own perverts, druggies, killers, rapists, etc. The only point most of us are trying to make is that with the addition of 15-20 million illegals in the USA, obviously crime statistics are only going to get worse. This isn't to suggest that illegals are all hardened criminals, but to show that if even one illegal has commited crime in the USA, then that's one more crime that could've been averted had said illegal not been here.
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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=eastidahomom or is it MsPotatoHead;5453326]
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Where on earth did ID theft measure in? Or are you ASSuming that they all steal your ID's too?
This thread and some of the accusations, self-righteousness, and pettiness is totally amazing and amusing.
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Oh, just a little reminder here; we have millions of legal American lawbreakers too.
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Where on earth did ID theft measure in? Or are you ASSuming that they all steal your ID's too?
It's no assumtion,
That just goes to show how much you know about the ILLEGAL immigration problem in this country.
All you know is that they're not allowed all of the rights that they DON'T deserve and you don't like it.
FYI, in order to be employed at some businesses an ID is required, so they have bought fake or stolen SS# and Drivers License that belong to legal citizens(including myself) in order to get the job.
Also, we're talking about ILLEGALS, and when we say ILLEGALS we mean ANYONE, from any country, that enters the US illegaly, no matter where they came from, their color, creed or Nationality.
Your the one who's including ALL of them to this discussion.
Sure there may be some illegals that come over here and don't commit anymore crimes, but we're talking about the ones that come over here illegally and commit more that affect the US citizen and taxpayers. Now if your not affected by the Illegal Immigration problem now and this keeps up, you will be,...with no exception you will be. You don't have to beleive me,,,,,you can find out yourself.
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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you want proof?

"25 illegal immigrants arrested in US hog slaughterhouse raids face ID theft charges"
International Herald Tribune
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Old 09-28-2008, 10:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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A number of congressmen requested that the General Accountability Office (GAO) investigate and report information on criminal aliens incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. The resulting GAO report, published in April 2005, revealed that illegal aliens make up 27% of the prison population. (The oft-cited figure of 12 million illegal aliens in the country means that they make up just 4% of the general population.)

Since illegal aliens are unlikely to be committing white-collar crimes, that figure likely underestimates the amount of violent crime committed by illegal aliens. Using the GAO report, Representative Steve King of Iowa points out that 25 Americans, on average, are killed by illegal aliens every day (about evenly split between motor vehicle accidents and outright murder). Do the math: That works out to more than 9,000 deaths per year, or more than 36,000 deaths over the past four years. That's more than ten times the number of Americans killed in Iraq over the past four years!
Illegal Alien Crime Statistics

Immigration Counters.com - Live Data

As people continue to justify illegal immigrant presence in this country, crime statistics continue to rise at an alarming rate.

I don't think that there is one person on this forum who is discounting the amount of crime committed by people who are in this country LEGALLY. God knows that there are plenty of American citizens willing to fold, spindle, and mutilate their fellow citizens. The lunacy behind your apologist attitude is that you see no problem in importing more simply because "the majority are good people." Well, if these "good people" were coming to this country legally instead of flagrantly violating sovereign United States law to do so--the chances of importing even more violent criminals lessens. I seriously doubt that you would continue adocating the odds game (most are good people as opposed to criminals) if you or someone you loved became a victim of illegal immigrant crime.


Immigrations Human Cost

Each and every one of these people was someone's child, someone's parent or spouse, the love of someone's life--all dead unnecessarily. Each of their killers were in this country illegally. If they had been stopped at the border by a government that actually cares about the lives of their citizens, each of these people would likely still be alive today.

Therein lies the frustration and the anger of every person on this board who advocates a secure border and enforcement of our immigration laws. None of these people should be dead at the hands of illegal aliens--none of them. And as long as we allow people to come into this country at will with no sort of verification or substantiation, American citizens will die at the hands of people who have no legal right to be here.

So, eastidahomom, you feel free to move on, from this forum and through your little world. Because as long as you are insulated from the negative effects of illegal immigration, you can continue to believe that all the people who are in this country illegally are benign little immigrants whose only desire is the good life in America. I'm sure you sleep well at night knowing they mean you and yours no harm.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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BTW..Hatsta La Vista....baby.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by Kele View Post
Illegal Alien Crime Statistics

Immigration Counters.com - Live Data

As people continue to justify illegal immigrant presence in this country, crime statistics continue to rise at an alarming rate.

I don't think that there is one person on this forum who is discounting the amount of crime committed by people who are in this country LEGALLY. God knows that there are plenty of American citizens willing to fold, spindle, and mutilate their fellow citizens. The lunacy behind your apologist attitude is that you see no problem in importing more simply because "the majority are good people." Well, if these "good people" were coming to this country legally instead of flagrantly violating sovereign United States law to do so--the chances of importing even more violent criminals lessens. I seriously doubt that you would continue adocating the odds game (most are good people as opposed to criminals) if you or someone you loved became a victim of illegal immigrant crime.


Immigrations Human Cost

Each and every one of these people was someone's child, someone's parent or spouse, the love of someone's life--all dead unnecessarily. Each of their killers were in this country illegally. If they had been stopped at the border by a government that actually cares about the lives of their citizens, each of these people would likely still be alive today.

Therein lies the frustration and the anger of every person on this board who advocates a secure border and enforcement of our immigration laws. None of these people should be dead at the hands of illegal aliens--none of them. And as long as we allow people to come into this country at will with no sort of verification or substantiation, American citizens will die at the hands of people who have no legal right to be here.

So, eastidahomom, you feel free to move on, from this forum and through your little world. Because as long as you are insulated from the negative effects of illegal immigration, you can continue to believe that all the people who are in this country illegally are benign little immigrants whose only desire is the good life in America. I'm sure you sleep well at night knowing they mean you and yours no harm.
Amen!
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