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Old 08-02-2008, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Something that IMO many are failing to acknowledge - or, that they do not know in the first place is, one of the Sheriffs "targets" has been the "drop houses" where some of the worst of the worst crimes are occuring - Human smuggling - false imprisonment. Thugs threatening illegals with their lives - or their families lives if they "don't pay up". And, from these drop houses many of the drug smuggling also takes place etc -

These Mexican Coyote gangs are getting very organized - and the Sheriff is going after them -
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Something that IMO many are failing to acknowledge - or, that they do not know in the first place is, one of the Sheriffs "targets" has been the "drop houses" where some of the worst of the worst crimes are occuring - Human smuggling - false imprisonment. Thugs threatening illegals with their lives - or their families lives if they "don't pay up". And, from these drop houses many of the drug smuggling also takes place etc -

These Mexican Coyote gangs are getting very organized - and the Sheriff is going after them -
As you stated.

Hell: some of our Black posters here who would normally hate the idea of 'racial profiling' for obvious recent historical reasons flat out state such a LE tool is now necessary due to the dangers posed by the (mostly brown skinned Mestizo) illegal immigrant lawbreakers to our nation.
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:30 AM
 
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There has to be another better term than "racial profiling". I do it all the time. I see a skinny guy with scraggly hair with a baseball hat on backwards, driving an old pickup truck with a rifle rack I instinctively say..."Oh oh something wrong here." I might be wrong but as the old adage says "Better safe than sorry."
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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There has to be another better term than "racial profiling". I do it all the time. I see a skinny guy with scraggly hair with a baseball hat on backwards, driving an old pickup truck with a rifle rack I instinctively say..."Oh oh something wrong here." I might be wrong but as the old adage says "Better safe than sorry."
Very true-------can someone say possible Meth head or at least a 'survivalist' (in the worst sense of the word)?
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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There has to be another better term than "racial profiling". I do it all the time. I see a skinny guy with scraggly hair with a baseball hat on backwards, driving an old pickup truck with a rifle rack I instinctively say..."Oh oh something wrong here." I might be wrong but as the old adage says "Better safe than sorry."
Very true! We all form opinions based on appearances. It is part of our "flight or fight" instinct -- our internal 'protection' mechanism.
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Very true! We all form opinions based on appearances. It is part of our "flight or fight" instinct -- our internal 'protection' mechanism.
As you stated------Political Correctness be damned.

BTW: sometimes I am at the receiving end of said subconscious profiling myself due to my size and extremely masculine facial features-----in fact, I have been advised to not slick my hair straight back for that very reason.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Most of Arpaio's issues stem from

1. He is a media wh*re
2. He is continually over budget (despite his claim that he saves millions from tent city)
3. His lawsuits cost millions upon millions upon millions
4. He abuses his powers to shake down and even arrest people who speak out against him (New Times, Police chief of Buckeye, Mayor of Guadalupe...and so on...) Mayor Gordon is prob. on his sh*t list as well...
5. His police abuse their powers
6. He is quick to go after police of other agency's but not his own
7. His personal financial dealings are sketchy as best
8. His sweeps and tactics are borderline racial profiling...I would say they are racial profiling. He has made enough waves in this area to bring in the feds...

He is doing his job when he arrest illegals....but he is violating a lot of America's civil rights by doing so. Lawsuits are already pending because of this...
Illegals do not have rights as Americans. Americans have civil rights.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Illegals do not have rights as Americans. Americans have civil rights.
Thank you, Motley . . . I agree 100%!
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